J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)
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franco-russe
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asif iqbal
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China to give squadron of J10-B fighters to Pakistan
ISLAMABAD: Taking bilateral defence relations to a new high,China will give Pakistan a squadron of the advanced J-10B fighter aircraft, a media report said.
The offer was made by senior Chinese military leaders to visiting Pakistan Army's Chief of General Staff, Lt. Gen.Waheed Arshad, the Urdu daily Jang reported on Saturday, quoting defence sources.
The J-10B fighters are equipped with the latest weapons and Pakistan will be the first country, after China, to have these advanced aircraft, it said.
During his visit, Lt.Gen.Arshad was assured that the defence relationship between the two countries will reach new heights and China's efforts for the safety and security of Pakistan will be never-ending.
During his visit, Waheed called on General Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of general staff of People's Liberation Army and other officials including Lt. General Ren Haiquan, the vice president of the National Defence University.
ISLAMABAD: Taking bilateral defence relations to a new high,China will give Pakistan a squadron of the advanced J-10B fighter aircraft, a media report said.
The offer was made by senior Chinese military leaders to visiting Pakistan Army's Chief of General Staff, Lt. Gen.Waheed Arshad, the Urdu daily Jang reported on Saturday, quoting defence sources.
The J-10B fighters are equipped with the latest weapons and Pakistan will be the first country, after China, to have these advanced aircraft, it said.
During his visit, Lt.Gen.Arshad was assured that the defence relationship between the two countries will reach new heights and China's efforts for the safety and security of Pakistan will be never-ending.
During his visit, Waheed called on General Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of general staff of People's Liberation Army and other officials including Lt. General Ren Haiquan, the vice president of the National Defence University.
asif iqbal
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if true this would be a milestone in PAF history to get and operate such a advanced fighter jet, along with the new F16 C/D Block 52+ and J10B called FC-20 in Pakistan coupled together with JF17 Thunder the Pakistan Air Force will be amongst the best equipped in the region if not the world, with BVR excersies with Nato members and close co-operation with Turkey I think PAF can master BVR combat in the coming years, WVR combat is a tatic that is already drilled into every PAF fighter pilot
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plawolf
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The 'gifting' of J10Bs sounds very generous and a little too good to be true from Pakistan's POV. It would be quite something for them to be getting the J10B in the first place since it is better than the J10As in service with the PLAAF. To get them for free is a bit too much of a good thing in my view.
Although I remember previous reports about China 'gifting' Pakistan JF17s. Maybe it's just a translation issue or the previous report might refer to this instead.
Of courselves, it could be that the 'J10B' mentioned in the story is not the same plane as what we called the new DSI, WS10 equipped J10 being tested.
It would be more credible if this gift was off some refurbished J10As with PAF specific equipment.
If the J10B in the article is the plane we are calling the J10B on this forum, and the offer is true, then that would suggest some major behind the scenes stuff happening for the PLAAF to feel it needs to make such an overly generous offer.
The Americans might have concerns over just how secure their new blk52s and PC3s are in Pakistan. Or it could be something completely unrelated like the PAF agreeing some favourable exchange and pilot training exercises with the PLAAF and/or Pakistan allowing China to back out of their JF17 purchase commitment.
The longer the PLAAF goes without making a JF17 order, the less likely it is that they will make a purchase at all. Especially not for the size of commitment they signed up to. Just think how long it will take them to just build that many planes.
With the J10B coming along nicely, I am really struggling to see where the JF17 would fit in in the PLAAF's order of battle. The J10B would take the mid teer position, with the J10A taking the lower slot the JF17 would have taken.
Although I remember previous reports about China 'gifting' Pakistan JF17s. Maybe it's just a translation issue or the previous report might refer to this instead.
Of courselves, it could be that the 'J10B' mentioned in the story is not the same plane as what we called the new DSI, WS10 equipped J10 being tested.
It would be more credible if this gift was off some refurbished J10As with PAF specific equipment.
If the J10B in the article is the plane we are calling the J10B on this forum, and the offer is true, then that would suggest some major behind the scenes stuff happening for the PLAAF to feel it needs to make such an overly generous offer.
The Americans might have concerns over just how secure their new blk52s and PC3s are in Pakistan. Or it could be something completely unrelated like the PAF agreeing some favourable exchange and pilot training exercises with the PLAAF and/or Pakistan allowing China to back out of their JF17 purchase commitment.
The longer the PLAAF goes without making a JF17 order, the less likely it is that they will make a purchase at all. Especially not for the size of commitment they signed up to. Just think how long it will take them to just build that many planes.
With the J10B coming along nicely, I am really struggling to see where the JF17 would fit in in the PLAAF's order of battle. The J10B would take the mid teer position, with the J10A taking the lower slot the JF17 would have taken.
asif iqbal
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"gifting" is just loss in translation jang news is terrible!
It is common for China to sell Pakistan weapons better than itself equips.
Pakistan's A-5C, F-7P, and F-7PG were more advanced than what PLA had at that time.
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