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[A.Man]

京媒：巴空军总长证实将签署歼-10购买合同

Beijing Media: Pakistan Air Force General confirmed that the purchase contract will be signed F -10

巴基斯坦空军总参谋长（Air Chief Marshal）Rao Qamar Soleman表示，第一架中巴合作研制的预警机已经出厂，总参谋长本人出席了在11月13日在杭州举行的出厂仪式。

　　环球网报道，巴基斯坦空军在2008年与中国电子科技集团签订了购买4架预警机的合同。预警机代号为ZDK-03。

　　“新型预警机的性能先进，我们在采购合同签署前，已经在巴基斯坦对其进行了一系列评估，测试其在极端条件下的性能，而新型预警机渐渐地通过了所有的测评。这正是我们选择这款预警机的原因。”Qamar说。

　　“这款飞机具有现代预警指挥机所要求的一切性能。”这位总参谋长补充道。

　　此外，巴基斯坦总参谋长透露，购买歼-10战机的谈判已进入尾声。“我们完成了技术与成本的评估，离签署合同已经非常近了”。Qamar表示。

Pakistan Air Force Chief of Staff Air Force Gen. Rao Qamar Soleman (center) attended the Sino-Pakistani cooperation in the development of early warning aircraft factory ceremony





Google Translation, Sorry.

Pakistan Air Force Chief of Staff (Air Chief Marshal) Rao Qamar Soleman said that China and Pakistan jointly developed the first AWACS aircraft have been manufactured, chief of staff I attended a Nov. 13 ceremony held in Hangzhou factory.

World Wide Web reported that Pakistan Air Force in 2008 and the China Electronics Technology Group signed a contract to buy four early warning aircraft. Early warning aircraft, code-named ZDK-03.

"The new performance of advanced early warning aircraft, we have before signing the procurement contract has been in Pakistan, a series of assessments were carried out to test its performance under extreme conditions, but gradually adopted the new early warning aircraft, all the evaluation. This is what we choose to The reasons for early warning aircraft. "Qamar said.

"This early warning aircraft, modern command and control aircraft with all the performance required." The chief of staff added.

In addition, Pakistan Chief of General Staff said the negotiations to buy the F -10 fighter has entered the end(final stage). "We completed the technical and cost evaluation, from the signing of the contract have been very near." Qamar said.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Could anyone link videos of August 1st's performance at Zhuhai here? Thnx in advance.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

for all the sceptics out there, who still doubt that the radar on J10B is AESA radar, please read this article by Aviation week .

Chengdu J-10 Next Variant Developing

Nov 19, 2010



By Reuben F. Johnson
ZHUHAI, China


Chengdu Aerospace’s most famous product, the J-10 fighter aircraft, made its inaugural appearance at Zhuhai’s Air Show China in 2008, offering one of the most remarkable flight displays of the event. In the intervening two years, the program has made notable progress.

The J-10’s evolution mirrors that of another famous single-engine fighter aircraft, the Lockheed Martin F-16 in more than one respect.

One of the F-16’s major developmental milestones was the introduction of a second, alternate engine, the F110-GE-100, which at the time produced 6,000 lbs more thrust than the F-100-PW-100/220 that was the aircraft’s original power plant. In the same vein, Chinese industry has been hard at work to complete testing and development of the Liming Aeroengine Manufacturing Corporation (LMAC) WS-10A engine.

According to Chinese news reports, the WS-10A has been flying on board prototype aircraft of the J-10’s next block-series development, which has been designated as J-10B. The WS-10A will replace the Salyut AL-31FN engine, which was the aircraft’s original power plant.

Included as part of the J-10B’s configuration is an entirely new design for the engine inlet, which has changed from the rectangular configuration developed for the AL-31FN to an oval-shaped inlet. This again parallels the F-16’s development in which a “big mouth” inlet was developed for the aircraft to provide an increase in air flow for the enhanced thrust of the GE F110 engine.

In the modern day, however, what makes the major difference in combat aircraft performance is the capability of the on-board electronic systems. Chinese industry officials told Aviation Weel that a new line of products is in development to replace some of the major pod container systems in use now on the J-10 and other aircraft.

Most notable here is the CETC KG300G electronic warfare pod, which will be redesigned in a new variant that expands the frequency bandwidths it can cover. Also in development is a new-generation active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar that would replace the aircraft’s current mechanically-steered array. “AESA radars are a major improvement for any fighter aircraft,” said one Chinese designer, “in that it provides a significant increase in reliability and radar performance.”
Photo: Douglas Barrie

 

[bladerunner]

Could anyone link videos of August 1st's performance at Zhuhai here? Thnx in advance.

The flight demos to date seem rather conservative/ limited in nature, when compared to the old you tube examples of the Russians demonstrating their planes, thus slighting dissapointing from a viewing perspective IMO.
Are their any demos around which show the J10 really being pushed, eg.pilots view etc etc or for security reasons , they arent prepared to go that far.

 

[getready]

for all the sceptics out there, who still doubt that the radar on J10B is AESA radar, please read this article by Aviation week .

Chengdu J-10 Next Variant Developing

Nov 19, 2010



By Reuben F. Johnson
ZHUHAI, China


Chengdu Aerospace’s most famous product, the J-10 fighter aircraft, made its inaugural appearance at Zhuhai’s Air Show China in 2008, offering one of the most remarkable flight displays of the event. In the intervening two years, the program has made notable progress.

The J-10’s evolution mirrors that of another famous single-engine fighter aircraft, the Lockheed Martin F-16 in more than one respect.

One of the F-16’s major developmental milestones was the introduction of a second, alternate engine, the F110-GE-100, which at the time produced 6,000 lbs more thrust than the F-100-PW-100/220 that was the aircraft’s original power plant. In the same vein, Chinese industry has been hard at work to complete testing and development of the Liming Aeroengine Manufacturing Corporation (LMAC) WS-10A engine.

According to Chinese news reports, the WS-10A has been flying on board prototype aircraft of the J-10’s next block-series development, which has been designated as J-10B. The WS-10A will replace the Salyut AL-31FN engine, which was the aircraft’s original power plant.

Included as part of the J-10B’s configuration is an entirely new design for the engine inlet, which has changed from the rectangular configuration developed for the AL-31FN to an oval-shaped inlet. This again parallels the F-16’s development in which a “big mouth” inlet was developed for the aircraft to provide an increase in air flow for the enhanced thrust of the GE F110 engine.

In the modern day, however, what makes the major difference in combat aircraft performance is the capability of the on-board electronic systems. Chinese industry officials told Aviation Weel that a new line of products is in development to replace some of the major pod container systems in use now on the J-10 and other aircraft.

Most notable here is the CETC KG300G electronic warfare pod, which will be redesigned in a new variant that expands the frequency bandwidths it can cover. Also in development is a new-generation active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar that would replace the aircraft’s current mechanically-steered array. “AESA radars are a major improvement for any fighter aircraft,” said one Chinese designer, “in that it provides a significant increase in reliability and radar performance.”
Photo: Douglas Barrie

sweet ,thanks mate.

 

[Martian]

Impressive Videos: J-10, JF-17 and K-8 at Zhuhai Airshow 2010

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J-10 aerobatics performance.

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JF-17 aerobatics performance by Pakistani Airforce.

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JF-17 aerobatics performance (second part). K-8 acrobatics performance starts after 5 minutes and 25 seconds into the video.

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Bi-planes perform acrobatics at Zhuhai Airshow 2010.

Note: Thank you to "oneman28" for the video links.

 

[SteelBird]

It said "in development..." means that the radar is not in production yet. Wonder how long would it take the radar to be commissioned. Not another 20 years...

 

[Hendrik_2000]

It said "in development..." means that the radar is not in production yet. Wonder how long would it take the radar to be commissioned. Not another 20 years...

The bulkhead is canted eliminating mechanical radar because they won't be able to swing back and forth without hitting the radome. The only logical choice would be AESA because they don't need to swing.

Development mean testing,debugging and optimizing

 

[challenge]

The bulkhead is canted eliminating mechanical radar because they won't be able to swing back and forth without hitting the radome. The only logical choice would be AESA because they don't need to swing.

Development mean testing,debugging and optimizing

check the 2007 post,article about the AESA , hardware development may already finished,second phase of development may refering to solfware development and system integration.
solfware development and system inegration may turn out to be far more complcate (and costlier)

 

[Hendrik_2000]

check the 2007 post,article about the AESA , hardware development may already finished,second phase of development may refering to solfware development and system integration.
solfware development and system inegration may turn out to be far more complcate (and costlier)

Having succesfully put into serial production 3 different type of AESA radar, China is not clueless when it come to radar programming. You would expect that by now legions of programmer in NRIET or other Chinese defense establishment who were well converse in radar programming.

You can count only 2 or 3 nations that can produce AESA radar. Russia until today has not put in serial production AESA radar!