Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

HereToSeePics

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Hamas using rockets to kill civilians is terrorism. Israel using airstrikes to kill civilians is counterterrorism.

There's a big difference between a Hamas fighter intentionally shooting an unarmed person that's right in front of them and IDF forces bombing a Hamas building and unintentionally killing civilians.
 

Biscuits

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There's a big difference between a Hamas fighter intentionally shooting an unarmed person that's right in front of them and IDF forces bombing a Hamas building and unintentionally killing civilians.
There is a big difference because those 2 are not equivocal events. We have seen both IDF and Hamas fighters open fire on unarmed people. We have also seen both IDF and Hamas bombs sent towards supposed military targets but ended up somewhere else.
 

plawolf

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There's a big difference between a Hamas fighter intentionally shooting an unarmed person that's right in front of them and IDF forces bombing a Hamas building and unintentionally killing civilians.

If you toss tons of a high explosives precisely into all the key support structures of a civilian high rise in a densely pack urban environment with zero attempt to warn or evacuate civilians, just how ‘unintentional’ can the inevitable mass killing of civilians be?
 

HereToSeePics

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If you toss tons of a high explosives precisely into all the key support structures of a civilian high rise in a densely pack urban environment with zero attempt to warn or evacuate civilians, just how ‘unintentional’ can the inevitable mass killing of civilians be?
Of course there are exceptions to the norm, but the norm of terrorism’s goal is to kill as many people as possible with little regards to who the other person is and commit acts that are by most standards considered war crimes if fought between conventional forces.
 

KYli

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Of course there are exceptions to the norm, but the norm of terrorism’s goal is to kill as many people as possible with little regards to who the other person is and commit acts that are by most standards considered war crimes if fought between conventional forces.
IF that is the case, then how the hell did ICC charges Russia and Putin with war crimes not Israel.
 

FriedButter

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This was from the 2009 operation where the UN claimed white phosphorus was used because of the impact on civilians. I don’t find the excuse of claiming they are targeting HAMAS buildings acceptable when entire neighborhoods is being turned into rubble. That is not “unintentionally killing civilians” when you are essentially carpet bombing an entire residential blocks into dust.

The Israel Defence Forces eventually issued an admission and an inquiry was started. An investigation by the UN Human Rights Council concluded that Israeli forces had been systematically reckless in their use of white phosphorus during the Gaza conflict because of its impact on civilians.

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Stierlitz

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— // Seventh day of the war, October 13th, status update and major events:

– Renlentless bombing campaign in Gaza continues; Israel drops leaflets asking residents of Gaza City to evacuate to areas in the south of the Gaza strip. Later on, Israel bombed a civilian convoy on a road that Israel promised not to target, resulting in at least 70 deaths.

– All areas around the Gaza strip have been cleared of Hamas fighters, based on the evidence that is currently available. No more successful infiltrations were reported.

– Iran's Foreign Minister met with the Secretary General of Hezbollah, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut.

– Massive protests in support of Palestine were held around the world, particularly in Muslim nations such as Iraq, Iran, Yemen and Jordan.

– The Israeli settlement of Metula near the Lebanese border was declared a closed military zone by the IDF.

– Sporadic small rocket barrages against Israeli cities. Hamas also launched one long range Ayyash 250 missile into the direction of Haifa, which hit a chemical production plant.

– Hezbollah announced that it targeted three Israeli settlements near the Lebanese border with armed fighters using small arms, and says it inflicted casualties upon the IDF.

– In a response to the Hezbollah attack, the IDF fired artillery at South Lebanon, destroying one Lebanese army observation tower. In response to this, the Lebanese army fired artillery back at Israel.

– Israeli artillery, or possibly a hellfire missile fired by an IAF attack helicopter, killed a Reuters journalist in South Lebanon and heavily injured three other journalists belonging to Al-Jazeera.

– The IDF announced that it carried out drone strikes against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon.

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FairAndUnbiased

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I guess you don't live near any Jewish people in Canada? I see those ads all the time on bus shelters, though obviously that particular ad has wording to reflect the current situation. These bonds have been selling in Canada for many years.
Imagine China openly running ads about supporting socialism. Cancelled faster than a boomers Ashley Madison subscription when his wife finds out.
 
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