Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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Nice try buddy. Hasbara failed again. Israel has already accepted their role in arming Syrian rebels and there is video evidence along with government documents on this very thread of US training extremists in Syria.

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This is funny. The two guys US sent to Lebanon to oversee the ceasefire are: 1) an Israel-born, former IDF, aid to Biden, Amos Hochstein, and; 2) an American general who was involved in the occupation of both Iraq and Syria (leading a brigade in the latter).
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Well that was quick. Many media are reporting it.
Lol he looks like Zelensky in middle eastern disguise

Anyways I guess that cements Russia and surrounding countries' position, they will help Assad hold.
 

Michael90

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Lol he looks like Zelensky in middle eastern disguise

Anyways I guess that cements Russia and surrounding countries' position, they will help Assad hold.
The problem with most people on here is that they are looking at things from a purely white and black perspective. I understand that this a Chinese forum so its normal that it more pro Russia and anti West just like i will expect an Indian forum to be more anti China/Pakistan or an Turkish forum to be more anti Greek and vice versa or Morroccan forum to be mostly anti Algerian/Western Sahara etc etc.
However, we should also try and look at things from a more nuanced perspective. Nothing is blacka and white in the middle east of all places. Alliances are interconnected and ever changing depending on the situation and its this conflict has even more complex web of alliances. So to look at things from a purely narrow perspective is rather wrong. For example even Hamas which most of you guys support and sympathise with Supported their syrian opposition rebels against Assad regime a.d Iranian shia proxies. Would you also call Hamas a zionist/western puppet/stooge? Lol The syrian government backed by Russia and Iran have been cooperating with Kurdish groups(YPG/SDF) in Syria and helping syrian government now to fight against the Sunni rebels seceral times to the anger of Turkey since Turkey considers them as terrorists and supporting separatists in their country, funny enough YPG/SDF/Kurdish groups have also had good cooperation and ties with the US/Israël. Using your one sided logic then Kurdish groups and Asaad are zionist and western puppets. Lol
As i said we shound try and be more open minded in viewing things in this region. Nothing is black and white here. Each is after their own selfish interests as always in geo politics, the only ones suffering the most are the civilians/people and we know how this conflict started and who to blame, the leader of the country has to bare the responsibilities got that as in every sane country.

There are no good guys in this conflict, every player is only seeking their own interests. Only someone very naive or too biased will think their side is the good one. Lol The only difference is that some players are more organised and competent than others. :)
 
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iBBz

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Great analysis by Kevork Amassian on RT regarding the situation in Syria. He makes the argument that Turkey is trying to show the Americans that should they want to ostensibly withdraw from Syria, Turkey would be willing to fill the gap.

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FairAndUnbiased

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The problem with most people on here is that they are looking at things from a purely white and black perspective. I understand that this a Chinese forum so its normal that it more pro Russia and anti West just like i will expect an Indian forum to be more anti China/Pakistan or an Turkish forum to be more anti Greek and vice versa or Morroccan forum to be mostly anti Algerian/Western Sahara etc etc.
However, we should also try and look at things from a more nuanced perspective. Nothing is blacka and white in the middle east of all places. Alliances are interconnected and ever changing depending on the situation and its this conflict has even more complex web of alliances. So to look at things from a purely narrow perspective is rather wrong. For example even Hamas which most of you guys support and sympathise with Supported their syrian opposition rebels against Assad regime a.d Iranian shia proxies. Would you also call Hamas a zionist/western puppet/stooge? Lol The syrian government backed by Russia and Iran have been cooperating with Kurdish groups(YPG/SDF) in Syria and helping syrian government now to fight against the Sunni rebels seceral times to the anger of Turkey since Turkey considers them as terrorists and supporting separatists in their country, funny enough YPG/SDF/Kurdish groups have also had good cooperation and ties with the US/Israël. Using your one sided logic then Kurdish groups and Asaad are zionist and western puppets. Lol
As i said we shound try and be more open minded in viewing things in this region. Nothing is black and white here. Each is after their own selfish interests as always in geo politics, the only ones suffering the most are the civilians/people and we know how this conflict started and who to blame, the leader of the country has to bare the responsibilities got that as in every sane country.

There are no good guys in this conflict, every player is only seeking their own interests. Only someone very naive or too biased will think their side is the good one. Lol The only difference is that some players are more organised and competent than others. :)
its actually very simple. Either you are with ISIS or against ISIS. The details are hardly important because nobody has time to understand all the different flavors of shit, it is all shit.

Don't compare China to your India or Turkey, thanks. It isn't just the difference in GDP per capita, scientific output, innovation or social metrics. It is the way of thinking.
 

doggydogdo

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The problem with most people on here is that they are looking at things from a purely white and black perspective. I understand that this a Chinese forum so its normal that it more pro Russia and anti West just like i will expect an Indian forum to be more anti China/Pakistan or an Turkish forum to be more anti Greek and vice versa or Morroccan forum to be mostly anti Algerian/Western Sahara etc etc.
However, we should also try and look at things from a more nuanced perspective. Nothing is blacka and white in the middle east of all places. Alliances are interconnected and ever changing depending on the situation and its this conflict has even more complex web of alliances. So to look at things from a purely narrow perspective is rather wrong. For example even Hamas which most of you guys support and sympathise with Supported their syrian opposition rebels against Assad regime a.d Iranian shia proxies. Would you also call Hamas a zionist/western puppet/stooge? Lol The syrian government backed by Russia and Iran have been cooperating with Kurdish groups(YPG/SDF) in Syria and helping syrian government now to fight against the Sunni rebels seceral times to the anger of Turkey since Turkey considers them as terrorists and supporting separatists in their country, funny enough YPG/SDF/Kurdish groups have also had good cooperation and ties with the US/Israël. Using your one sided logic then Kurdish groups and Asaad are zionist and western puppets.
Hamas stopped supporting rebels a while ago. and Syrian government working with kurds to fight terrorists doesn't mean they are in bed with the west.
 
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