Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

"They are like pirates of different clans assembled on a single island and working together to raid and loot the civilized world."

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"Our shared values" in the Heirs of the British Empire Club are: piracy, slave trade, drug trafficking and colonialism

The Mental Software of the West has its roots in the so-called Old Testament: we are a people of lords with the mission of dominating and enslaving "the people of the land" ("am ha'eretz") of "the land of Canaan"

In version 2.0 of this Mental Software (version 2.0 which was called "christianity") "land" was replaced by "earth", planet earth.

Within this common shared tradition the most radical are educated in the belief that "everyone hates us", which gives carte blanche to despise everyone, steal and kill because the reaction of others reinforces this firm belief and cultural identity.

When with the British Empire ... Vladimir Jabotinsky arrived (1917-) with his troop of fanatical Ukrainians, Poles, Lithuanians and Belarusians and unleashed terror on the local population in Palestine by placing bombs in cafes and buses full of people... to found "our colonial project" (Vladimir Jabotinsky) ... their cultural identity was reinforced, and the same when they assassinated senior officials...

vincent said:

Did Russia ask for China‘s permission before attacking Ukraine? Did Iran ask China’s permission before messing around West Asia? Helping “allies” like them will only drag China into wars against her interests. Just look at the current Hegemon. Its wasted tons of wealth in oversea wars with little rewards.

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Having to ask "permission" for countries to stand up for themselves against Western agression isn't all that different to the current world order, then where countries have to ask the Anglos for permission to do anything. So what woud be the change if that were to be the aproach?.

Should China ask Russia for permission to take back Taiwan since that will trigger the Japanese that also have beef with Russia over the Kuril and Khalkin Gol smackdown?.

It's turning ugly on the international side... clash in Amsterdam against Israel soccer fans:

Atomicfrog said:

It's turning ugly on the international side... clash in Amsterdam against Israel soccer fans:

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Middle East Spectator is reporting the Israeli fans started booing and shouting during Spain's flooding victims moment of silence as well as attacking people with Palestinian flags and shouting "Kill all Gazans", "Turn Gaza into Hiroshima" and "Kill all Arabs and destroy all mosques", which provoked people into attacking them. Mainstream media are leaving all these details out of their reports.

_killuminati_ said:

Has China made any indication towards this?

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If there is a major war between the US and Iran I do not see China standing by. China wants stability in West Asia and they get their energy from both Iran/Iraq and the Gulf Arab monarchies. But if Israel and the US instigate a conflict that will disrupt that stability they’ll stand by Iran. They’ll see it as an opportunity to bleed the US and bog it down in a regional quagmire that ultimately could lead to a major strategic defeat for the US leading to them leaving the region all together. The rewards outweigh the risks.
Iran is also a member of BRICs and plays a vital logistics role in the BRI. They probably won’t send their latest weapons but could send light infantry stuff like manpads,atgms,small arms that Iran can send to their allies in Iraq and Syria. They may send parts for Iran to continue mass producing their missiles,drones and anti ship missiles in their deep underground missile cities. Russia would likely be the primary source of weapons to Iran but I doubt China will stand by doing nothing. Plus both nations have massive weapons stockpiles and even military industrial bases to arm Iran for a long time. And China may offer to rebuild Iran,Iraq or even Syria once the war is over.

iBBz said:

Middle East Spectator is reporting the Israeli fans started booing and shouting during Spain's flooding victims moment of silence as well as attacking people with Palestinian flags and shouting "Kill all Gazans", "Turn Gaza into Hiroshima" and "Kill all Arabs and destroy all mosques", which provoked people into attacking them. Mainstream media are leaving all these details out of their reports.

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The football fan demographics and radical Jewish men who have served in the Israeli military probably has a large degree of overlap. Many of the anti Muslim racists have probably already participated in the ongoing genocide. They should know better than to openly show the symbols under which thousands have been butchered

iBBz said:

Middle East Spectator is reporting the Israeli fans started booing and shouting during Spain's flooding victims moment of silence as well as attacking people with Palestinian flags and shouting "Kill all Gazans", "Turn Gaza into Hiroshima" and "Kill all Arabs and destroy all mosques", which provoked people into attacking them. Mainstream media are leaving all these details out of their reports.

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Some hard core zionists online tried to justify this by saying that Valencia historically expelled Jews. Yeah they did, back in 1492! Sheesh, I thought Koreans and Vietnamese were the Olympic gold winners in going apeshit over stuff that happened hundreds to thousands of years ago.

iBBz said:

Middle East Spectator is reporting the Israeli fans started booing and shouting during Spain's flooding victims moment of silence as well as attacking people with Palestinian flags and shouting "Kill all Gazans", "Turn Gaza into Hiroshima" and "Kill all Arabs and destroy all mosques", which provoked people into attacking them. Mainstream media are leaving all these details out of their reports.

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The Israeli fans instigated the violence after arriving in the city and attacking Palestinian supporters before the match, an Amsterdam city council member said.

“They began attacking houses of people in Amsterdam with Palestinian flags, so that’s actually where the violence started,” Councilman Jazie Veldhuyzen told Al Jazeera on Friday.

Source: Al Jazeera


Video Interview with the Times of London below


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Also remember that pretty much every Israeli Jewish man has been in the Army and is a reservist.

AndrewS said:

Also remember that pretty much every Israeli Jewish man has been in the Army and is a reservist.

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They also proudly anounced they were sending Mossad agents within the group of "fans". Totally normal behavior and surely not looking to provoke

JJD1803 said:

If there is a major war between the US and Iran I do not see China standing by. China wants stability in West Asia and they get their energy from both Iran/Iraq and the Gulf Arab monarchies. But if Israel and the US instigate a conflict that will disrupt that stability they’ll stand by Iran. They’ll see it as an opportunity to bleed the US and bog it down in a regional quagmire that ultimately could lead to a major strategic defeat for the US leading to them leaving the region all together. The rewards outweigh the risks.
Iran is also a member of BRICs and plays a vital logistics role in the BRI. They probably won’t send their latest weapons but could send light infantry stuff like manpads,atgms,small arms that Iran can send to their allies in Iraq and Syria. They may send parts for Iran to continue mass producing their missiles,drones and anti ship missiles in their deep underground missile cities. Russia would likely be the primary source of weapons to Iran but I doubt China will stand by doing nothing. Plus both nations have massive weapons stockpiles and even military industrial bases to arm Iran for a long time. And China may offer to rebuild Iran,Iraq or even Syria once the war is over.

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Dreams of "tug-of-war" belong to elderly American second-rate politicians like Edward Lutwak.



Without even touching on economic or general political aspects, the value of modern Russia as an ally is more than questionable.

Here it is appropriate to recall Romania during World War II, which - according to estimates of the Russian General Staff - "in any case - would have cost 14 divisions. If Romania enters the war on the side of the Central Powers - it will take 14 divisions to defeat her army. If she enters the war on the side of the Entente, it would take 14 divisions to defend her from the Austro-German offensive."