Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

tankphobia said:

I already mentioned this a few pages back. Both options are no-win for Palestine. But one at least pretends he cares about the civilians. Trump has no such pretense and is happy for a big war in the ME so he can force EU into favorable trade concessions.

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But that's exactly it, EU media and leaders like to pretend there's a sense honesty in the words of the likes of Biden and Blinken while ignoring reality.
With Trump they can no longer hide behind these consistently deranged falsehoods.

At the end if the day it's all about freedom of action, the EU acts as an enabler for Biden and Israel.

It'a the same reason Bush's second term was by far the best US Presidential term in the 21st century - he could no longer carry out his insanity and the gates of hell started closing, there was even optimism in the World. But then Obama took over the torch and pushed the gates wide open, greatly enabled by his EU worshippers who now chose to embrace American chauvinism.

Proton said:

He's given Israel immense economic, military and diplomatic support to carry out its war of aggression against Palestine.
Pretending Biden is anything but an enabler is insane - it's the exact opposite of reality.

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Biden has personal interest in Ukraine and go along with Zionist lobby reluctantly. Because every fund to Israel is one not going to Ukraine.

Overbom said:

As for Palestinians, they were goners before, they are even more goners with Trump in charge

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Ethnic cleansing is all the rage nowadays

Palestinians will not be allowed to return to homes in northern Gaza, says IDF​

Israeli ground forces are getting closer to “the complete evacuation” of northern Gaza and residents will not be allowed to return home, the

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Defense Forces (IDF) has said, in what appears to be the first official acknowledgment from Israel it is systematically removing Palestinians from the area.

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In a media briefing on Tuesday night, the IDF Brig Gen Itzik Cohen

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that since troops had been forced to enter some areas twice, such as Jabaliya camp, “there is no intention of allowing the residents of the northern Gaza Strip to return to their homes”.

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He added that humanitarian aid would be allowed to “regularly” enter the south of the territory but not the north, since there are “no more civilians left”.

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Heard it here first, no civilians left. No need to ask what happened to them

Overbom said:

Palestinians will not be allowed to return to homes in northern Gaza, says IDF

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Yeah. They will try and create a buffer zone between south Israel and North Gaza. Same with North Israel and south Lebanon before pulling out.

The biggest winner of the election is Netanyahu. He played the Biden-Harris administration like a fiddle. He got everything he wanted from them and humiliated them. And he did the most horrific atrocities to foment division within the democratic base that would propel Trump into the presidency. Netanyahu is a terrible war time leader but he is a savvy political animal. He knows American politics very well. He has now increased regional tensions to a point that it is easier than ever before to get the US to fight Iran on their behalf.



Trump is a Zionist. Don’t believe the hype of him wanting peace. His son in law is an arch Zionist. Also many of his most loyal advisors are pro Israel and anti Iran. Remember this is the same Trump that moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. He ordered the assassination of Soleimani. He ripped up the JPCOA. He basically said the Golan Heights is Israeli territory. And he wanted to go to war with Iran in two seperate occasions. So Trump and Republican the Congress will go further extreme than Biden when it comes to Israel. Basically Israel is going to be the Republican party’s Ukraine.



There is a section of Project 2025 that states that the US will cease all funding for the Palestinian Authority in the western hemisphere bank. The PA is near collapse as there is a severe economic crisis going on. Plus Trump received lots money from the wife of the late Sheldon Adelson’s who is an arch Zionist billionaire. She wants Trump to allow Israel to fully annex the West Bank. And Trump promised to keep it. So basically giving Israel all the diplomatic cover and security blanket to go after their enemies. There are rumors that Mike Pompeo is being floated to be Secretary of State. He is very anti Iran. And Mike Flynn who was Trumps’s national security advisor for a while will be back and he is very pro Israel. Israel will go for a final land grab of Gaza and the West Bank which will be very destabilizing to neighboring Jordan.



So what does this mean in regarding Israel and Iran? Netanyahu has his wish because Iran is going to launch a retaliatory strike at Israel. Once that occurs Israel will have justification to respond back. What this does is force Trumps hands by the time he comes to office the regional war will be underway. They may strike Iran’s oil and natural gas which will an even harsher reaction. This time around all the guard rails that would stop Trump from fighting Iran will be gone. He is going to surround himself with arch Zionists who are loyal to him and tell him what he wants to hear. He plans to purge many departments of career bureaucrats and replace this with loyalist. This includes the DoD and state department. Also with Trump back the gulf Arab states will likely go back to the US camp. They hated Biden. They only entertained BRICS and rapprochement with Iran out of spite with Biden.



For Israel’s end it won’t be hard to convince Trump to go to war. They’ll say “we bombed them twice already and delivered heavy blows on them. Their air defense has been taken out so it will be much easier for you. If you assemble your firepower it will crush them leading to the collapse of the mullah regime. This is your legacy to crush Iran and avenge the American blood that’s on their hands.” Trump won’t be running again. So he will have no fear to deal with the backlash of the war. In all I fully expect a war with Iran occurring under Trump. Difference this time is that Russia and China will back Iran diplomatically,economically and militarily.

Another MQ-9 shot down by the Yemenis

tamsen_ikard said:

Iran is done, the population of Iran itself is giving up on the islamic replublic and becoming pro-US. With extreme pressure from Trump and Israel, I expect Islamic republic to collapse soon and replaced by a pro-US regime.

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What are you smoking?

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Merkava 4 ... upside upside down

Michael90 said:

Yeah. They will try and create a buffer zone between south Israel and North Gaza. Same with North Israel and south Lebanon before pulling out.

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Looks like the buffer zone in the north is gonna be in Israeli territory.

Proton said:

But that's exactly it, EU media and leaders like to pretend there's a sense honesty in the words of the likes of Biden and Blinken while ignoring reality.
With Trump they can no longer hide behind these consistently deranged falsehoods.

At the end if the day it's all about freedom of action, the EU acts as an enabler for Biden and Israel.

It'a the same reason Bush's second term was by far the best US Presidential term in the 21st century - he could no longer carry out his insanity and the gates of hell started closing, there was even optimism in the World. But then Obama took over the torch and pushed the gates wide open, greatly enabled by his EU worshippers who now chose to embrace American chauvinism.

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Europeans are where they are today due to looting the world through their imperialism which continues today, especially in Africa. US imperialism is fairly new and not like the European. But they are of the same stock more or less. All US has done is taken the mantle left by the bankrupt Europeans after WWI and WWII. Hence why Europe cucks for America, because the latter is doing the safeguarding of European assets and investments. They are like pirates of different clans assembled on a single island and working together to raid and loot the civilized world.

JJD1803 said:

Difference this time is that Russia and China will back Iran diplomatically,economically and militarily.

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Has China made any indication towards this?

_killuminati_ said:

Has China made any indication towards this?

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No. However it would be unwise to sit back

First it allowed Russia to get mauled in the Ukrainian war. Now if it also allowed the same thing to Iran who will be left? only N.Korea

At some point you got to fight back because if you let your opponent to pick off your allies one by one, at some point when they come at you, you will be left all alone

Overbom said:

No. However it would be unwise to sit back

First it allowed Russia to get mauled in the Ukrainian war. Now if it also allowed the same thing to Iran who will be left? only N.Korea

At some point you got to fight back because if you let your opponent to pick off your allies one by one, at some point when they come at you, you will be left all alone

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Did Russia ask for China‘s permission before attacking Ukraine? Did Iran ask China’s permission before messing around West Asia? Helping “allies” like them will only drag China into wars against her interests. Just look at the current Hegemon. Its wasted tons of wealth in oversea wars with little rewards.

Overbom said:

No. However it would be unwise to sit back

First it allowed Russia to get mauled in the Ukrainian war.

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What are you confabulating about lmao

Russian economy booming up to global no4. Like 1:10 loss ratio for Russia. Utter annihilation of EU economies future prospects, which were on paper supposed to be near peer to US and China, but in reality were exposed as a sham.

Overbom said:

Now if it also allowed the same thing to Iran who will be left? only N.Korea

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If China mauls US' bloc another time as badly as in Ukraine, there might not be any capability left. They're running out of high end interceptors before even any PLA have been committed.

Overbom said:

At some point you got to fight back because if you let your opponent to pick off your allies one by one, at some point when they come at you, you will be left all alone

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We're not more alone than NATO is. You do know we have a similar population, higher production capability and only a bit smaller gdp than all of them together right?

Kinda pointless to have this discussion on this thread. End of the day, Iran will remain well protected because it is in everyone's national interest to do so, just as it is in US' national interest to support Israel. Having long discussions of hopium that it won't happen is dumb.