The satellite images show intact facilities. It's proof that the attack failed.
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Al-Qassam Brigades' deadly ambush
I think it should be clear by now, if it wasn't already, that normal rules of human interaction should be discarded when dealing with Israelis.
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Last moments of Sinwar: mortally wounded a with severed hand, fighting with a stick
"Largest ever strike on Iran"
"Historic" strike on Iran
"Historic humiliation; Iran Defenseless"
Lol
These titles will give @SolarWarden a boner
I think it should be clear by now, if it wasn't already, that normal rules of human interaction should be discarded when dealing with Israelis.
On this service, Israel never reveals it's movements. Very rarely, it reveals government aircraft, but never military.
Indeed. Sinwar pointed this out in a speech regarding Iran and Turkey, saying that Iran vocally AND physically supports us without care of sanctions; Turkey supports us vocally but not physically because they are afraid that the sanctions will end their renaissance.
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Last moments of Sinwar: mortally wounded a with severed hand, fighting with a stick
Iranians were killed in the embassy attack in Damascus. You found out then what happens next.
Nope. Doesn't look like it. It is believed Iraq possesses WMD. That's how reliable Americans are.
It's not normal to reveal this information. Usually, there is one tanker/day flown through Iraq and one/day over the Mediterranean. Earlier today, I posted there were 5 or 6 USAF tankers around Iran alone at the same time, as well as an Italian and British tanker, indicating a huge (probably NATO) aerial presence in the region. Preparing an attack/defense.
MSM nonsense in effect,
"Largest ever strike on Iran"
"Historic" strike on Iran
"Historic humiliation; Iran Defenseless"
Lol
These titles will give @SolarWarden a boner
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Because a full scale land war would most definitely result in a total defeat by Israel's foes.
I would argue that the IDF is much better trained and equipped to fight and win a large scale conventional war than her neighbors etc.
Doesnt really seem that way considering how they are faring with Hezbollah. They seem as succesful as Saudi Arabia was against the Houthis when it comes to achieving strategic and most of their tactical goals.
Air power can only get you so far if you want to achieve chances on the ground. Otherwise the US would have won Vietnam
I must point out that they lost 5k fixed wings in Vietnam. It was precisely because their air power was insufficient to achieve air superiority against even tiny Vietnam with 1% the GDP and 10% the population, that they lost.
More precisely, some 3700 fixed wing manned planes were lost in Vietnam. Of which probably 2500 to 3000 to enemy fire, though i am too lazy to do a proper count. Still massive figures. Especially considering majority was lost in just a few years when US effort was at its peak.
If buildings working with solid fuel were hit, shouldn't there have been a large secondary explosion? But why are there no videos or photos? If there's even any damage to the buildings, it's clearly very minor. What makes you think that there was any equipment in there if clearly nothing explosive was inside?
Whatever damage there is to Iran's solid fuel production capacity, weren't the majority of the strikes on Israel carried out using liquid fuel missiles anyway?
I find the western cope that Iran is humiliated because it's helpless in the face of Israeli attacks funny. While we don't know the percentage of Israeli drones and missiles that got shot down in Iran, we do have videos of Iranian missile after missile penetrating Israeli defences and impacting Jewish terrorist training camps. Israel looked helpless in the face of an Iranian attack
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Because in a full land war, the outcome won’t be decided on the battlefield. Even if the Arab armies wins overwhelming total victory against the IDF and wipes it out, all that would achieve is trigger Israeli nuclear attacks to delete said Arab armies and then threaten their capitals with a similar fate if they won’t back down.
Even if the Arabs manages to endure and/or neutralise the Israeli nuclear card, all that would achieve is trigger the direct entry of America into the war.
The Arabs recognise Israel as an American appendage in the ME, thus there can be no total victory against Israel without first being able to defeat or deter America, and that is frankly beyond all their combined might. So why even bother?
This is why Iran isn’t as desperate for nuclear breakout as one would have thought they would be. Since having nukes would paradoxically make them much more vulnerable, as that nuclear card would give the rest of the ME hope that total victory against Israel is finally attainable. That will very likely trigger them to push for such a war, which would be incredibly easy to do with the way Israel behaves. Then the entire ME’s hopes and dreams rests on Iran basically doing nuclear MAD with Israel, putting Iran in a no-win scenario of either being more hated than Israel by the rest of the ME and internal strife and possible revolution if it bottles it; or it goes out in a nuclear blaze of glory to rid the ME of Israel.
Instead, a much more survivable plan for Iran is to wait for America to attack China, at that point, win or loose, America will no longer have the power to intervene. Then, if Iran announces nuclear breakout, it can have a much greater chance of being able to deter nuclear attack by Israel and/or America, and make a conventional victory possible.
Iran's decision to not censor casualties means there will be a retaliation, and they're looking to escalate.
Nuclear use by small powers are not a real concern, because the large nuclear powers will deter them, as it's a matter of global/national survival to them.
1 guy with just a dozen nukes and old delivery systems using them on the battlefield (and getting no direct consequence for it) = anyone with just a few nukes will now use them against anyone without.
Same reason why south African apartheidists didn't blow their nukes despite what they viewed as armed subhumans descending on all their civilians and their own army was helpless.
The reason Iran doesn't go to conventional large scale war is more simple. Iran by itself might have escalation dominance against Israel, but if America goes into the war, America has escalation dominance over Iran. So the more they wait out US, the less risk of complications.
And also, Iran receives constant shipments of weapons which they need for a porcupine strategy.
50 injured in a run-over at a bus station north of Tel Aviv
The Israeli ambulance confirmed that 50 Israelis were injured, 15 of them seriously, on Sunday in a truck crash into a bus station near Glilot, north of Tel Aviv, amid speculation that the incident was carried out on a "nationalistic" basis, which is what the Israeli police say when the Palestinian resistance carries out such operations. The Israeli police said that the truck crashed into a bus near a passenger station next to the Glilot military base, noting that civilians opened fire on the driver of the truck that crashed into the bus and passengers at the station in the Glilot area, without adding information about his fate.
The Israeli Army Radio confirmed, quoting eyewitnesses, that a large number of the injured were soldiers who were on their way to their military bases.
Israel Hayom reported that after the attack, the driver got out of the truck carrying a knife.
The security source added that the perpetrator is likely to be a Palestinian from East Jerusalem, without confirming his identity yet.
Meanwhile, journalist Elias Karam quoted Israeli Channel 12 as saying that the perpetrator is a young Palestinian man from the city of Qalansawe, located within the Green Line, and holds the blue ID issued by the Israeli authorities.
The Israeli ambulance confirmed that 50 Israelis were injured, 15 of them seriously, on Sunday in a truck crash into a bus station near Glilot, north of Tel Aviv, amid speculation that the incident was carried out on a "nationalistic" basis, which is what the Israeli police say when the Palestinian resistance carries out such operations. The Israeli police said that the truck crashed into a bus near a passenger station next to the Glilot military base, noting that civilians opened fire on the driver of the truck that crashed into the bus and passengers at the station in the Glilot area, without adding information about his fate.
The Israeli Army Radio confirmed, quoting eyewitnesses, that a large number of the injured were soldiers who were on their way to their military bases.
Israel Hayom reported that after the attack, the driver got out of the truck carrying a knife.
The security source added that the perpetrator is likely to be a Palestinian from East Jerusalem, without confirming his identity yet.
Meanwhile, journalist Elias Karam quoted Israeli Channel 12 as saying that the perpetrator is a young Palestinian man from the city of Qalansawe, located within the Green Line, and holds the blue ID issued by the Israeli authorities.