Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

SinoSoldier said:

Had the Israelis wanted to decimate Iran's military infrastructure to the best of their ability, they would not have informed their Iranian counterparts of their plans.

And while I'd hesitate to make any battle assessment at this time, the results are probably more or less comparable to that of the Iranian BM attack, at least in terms of casualties and infrastructure damage.

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There are more Iranian direct hits on just one Israeli base in a single 1 minute video clip, all later confirmed on satellite photos, than the total number of targets, 20, that even Israel themselves claimed they hit, never-mind the total lack of any evidence or how many were intercepted. If Israel has the ability to decimate Iran's military, they wouldn't have demanded in a panic US send 2 out of only 7 total THAAD batteries to defend them.

Israel's military is the same one they had 30 years ago, Iran's isn't. Israel had no understanding of Iranian capabilities, hence THAAD, while Iran knows exactly what Israel had. Most importantly, Iran knows what kind of Intel Israel has and had decades to adapt, while Israel has no plan on how to deal with a Iran who receives ISR, SIGINT, possibly even HUMINT support from Russia and almost certainly China.

Bibi was bullied into compliance by the US.


Israel is totally dependent on the West for everything. All this talk about "muh strong Israel" is just cope.

_killuminati_ said:

How come we did not hear of this until AFTER today's failed attack? Israel has been speaking of retaliation for more than 3 weeks. This is clearly a cope, recently produced propaganda.


The only thing we have seen in Iran so far is a small fire on the side of the road, the size of a dumpster fire you see under the bridges in L.A lit by bums. Iran's attack was caught from dozens of angles repeatedly hitting an Israeli airbase. How is that comparable? Rofl

Let's see what else surfaces as the day progresses. So far, the Israeli response has been dismal, comparable to a homemade rocket fired from Gaza and landing in vacant land in Israel.

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I mean if Israel uses all it's power, it can surely at least break through air defenses to inflict a couple of hits at least, even if just on empty ground. So per definition, Israel held back.

It's as I predicted, US will do anything from stop Israel from drowning both countries by thrashing around. For Israel, Iran might be the great enemy, but US knows it can't afford the strategic situation.

That said, there are many interceptions, showing that Israel was trying to do the most they could despite US pressure.

To those criticising Iran's porcupine strategy before, I'd say that waiting the few more months for Russian/Chinese hardware could have been the difference between Israel successfully inflicting damage similar to true promise 1, and inflicting no ground hits at all.

Hopefully indeed only a limited strike

mossen said:

From what I've read, the Israelis went through Jordan and Saudi and then returned via Azer/Turkey.

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Could have been either way or both. The C-17 route I posted showed takeoff from Adana (south central Turkey > Turkey/Iran border > Iran/Kuwait border region > Qatar > Saudi Arabia > Jordan > Israel > Mediterranean > UK.

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Image looks like on an aircraft carrier with F/A-18 in the back.

4.9 magnitude earthquake reported just hours ago in Israel. Israel says it is from controlled explosions in Lebanon.
4.9 from controlled explosions?

Jets heard over Syria and Jordan, allegedly Israeli

Something SW of Tehran was targeted. Very minor explosions reported on ground.

Actual clip of exchange of fire between Israel And Iran has surfaced:

Imo Israel will bait Iran again in few months after Trumps in office and theyre done With Lebanon.

mossen said:

From what I've read, the Israelis went through Jordan and Saudi and then returned via Azer/Turkey.

This also exposes Erdogan as a hypocritical piece of shit who attacks Israel in public but quietly helps them bomb Iran in private. So many of these "moslem leaders" are total puppets of the West and Israel.

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Turkey is in NATO, in case you forgot. Besides that, politics has always been quid pro quo. In return for Erdogan’s cooperation, the West continues to designate the PKK as a terrorist group. That gives huge leeway to Erdogan in handling the threat.

phrozenflame said:

Actual clip of exchange of fire between Israel And Iran has surfaced:

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Imo Israel will bait Iran again in few months after Trumps in office and theyre done With Lebanon.

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They should get done with Gaza first before thinking about Lebanon.

Or did you mean the hiatus to recover from losses means they're "done"? Then the problem is more that Lebanon might not feel done with Israel.

Which sources mentioned Saudi or Turkey as routes of attack?

Zichan said:

Turkey is in NATO

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But Israel is not. There is no need for Turkey to collaborate with Israel.

Erdogan has been accusing Israel of genocide and then he turns around and co-operates with them. If he wants to be a puppet then he should act like one, not fake pretend to be tough on Israel. All I'm asking for is consistency. Whatever you want to say about Iran, they are consistent in their actions with their rhetoric.