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While reading about Israel's strikes on Syrian radar sites in the past few days, I came across a report that IDF F-35I fighters were able to successfully target and neutralize Syria's JY-27 radars, which purportedly were designed to track LO/VLO fighters, in 2019.

Does anyone have any more details of the strike? I would be interested to know if the radars were operational on that day and what version (vanilla JY-27 or JY-27A) were they.

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Doesn't seem credible without more details. Until further info I'd consider about as likely as the AN/SPY2 hit. Unlikely but within realm of possibility(?)
 

JJD1803

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It’s pretty much confirmed. The reason why Israel hasn’t retaliated to Iran yet and why the US is deploying THAAD is because Israel is critically low on interceptors. From the Financial Times:

Israel faces a looming shortage of interceptor missiles as it shores up air defences to protect the country from attacks by Iran and its proxies, according to industry executives, former military officials and analysts.


The US is racing to help close gaps in Israel's protective shield, announcing on Sunday the deployment of a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (Thaad) antimissile battery, ahead of an expected retaliatory strike from Israel on Iran that risks further regional escalation.


"Israel's munitions issue is serious," said Dana Stroul, a former senior US defence official with responsibility for the Middle East.”


During the October 1 attack, there was a sense the IDF reserved some Arrow interceptors in case Iran fired its next salvo at Tel Aviv,” said Ehud Eilam, a former researcher at Israel’s Ministry of Defence. “It’s only a matter of time before Israel starts to run out of interceptors and has to prioritise how they are deployed.”
It’s obvious what Hezbollah,Hamas,the Houthis and Iraqi resistance have been doing these daily rocket,drone attacks to deplete Israel air defense system. It’s a war of attrition. If Iran retaliates against an Israeli strike with a massive missile barrage in the thousands it will deplete it even further. If Israel runs out of interceptors people don’t realize how much of a psychological blow it will for the entity. You think people are leaving now? It will only accelerate. These are people used to a first world standard of living. They aren’t like the Lebanese or Palestinians used to decades of aerial bombardment. Israeli society is very weak. You think a software engineer in Haifa or a doctor in Tel Aviv would stay in a nation facing constant fire from all sides or take their talents in Europe or North America?
 

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It’s obvious what Hezbollah,Hamas,the Houthis and Iraqi resistance have been doing these daily rocket,drone attacks to deplete Israel air defense system. It’s a war of attrition. If Iran retaliates against an Israeli strike with a massive missile barrage in the thousands it will deplete it even further. If Israel runs out of interceptors people don’t realize how much of a psychological blow it will for the entity. You think people are leaving now? It will only accelerate. These are people used to a first world standard of living. They aren’t like the Lebanese or Palestinians used to decades of aerial bombardment. Israeli society is very weak. You think a software engineer in Haifa or a doctor in Tel Aviv would stay in a nation facing constant fire from all sides or take their talents in Europe or North America?
I don't think a retaliation from Israel will ever come. Or if it is, it will be a bomb planted on some semi-important Iranian ally (but not Iranian themselves) with no collateral damage.

Israel itself can't fight Iran head on. So as they've ranted for weeks now, they will tell US to bomb Iran into the stone age. Only problem is that will take 100% of US' military power for many months to even start to see results. And once all those US forces are tied up in sorties over Iran, there's no one stopping China from murdering every KMT member from the air, walk into Taipei, and also bomb SK into the stone age. Then, all of US' high tech industry is gone, while US is pounding sand in Tehran.

China demonstrating a military surge and even NK increasing its activity level reveals how scripted it all is.

US has already and will keep overriding Israel, for the sake of its own survival.
 

JJD1803

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I don't think a retaliation from Israel will ever come. Or if it is, it will be a bomb planted on some semi-important Iranian ally (but not Iranian themselves) with no collateral damage.

Israel itself can't fight Iran head on. So as they've ranted for weeks now, they will tell US to bomb Iran into the stone age. Only problem is that will take 100% of US' military power for many months to even start to see results. And once all those US forces are tied up in sorties over Iran, there's no one stopping China from murdering every KMT member from the air, walk into Taipei, and also bomb SK into the stone age. Then, all of US' high tech industry is gone, while US is pounding sand in Tehran.

China demonstrating a military surge and even NK increasing its activity level reveals how scripted it all is.

US has already and will keep overriding Israel, for the sake of its own survival.
I wish this was the case but it isn’t. If this was rational Israel in the 70s,80s,90s I would agree. Israel is not rational. They could have went on a Hasbara propaganda spree saying the Iranian missiles were junk and didn’t hit Israel while giving themselves some rope to not have to retaliate against Iran. However that’s not the reality. Israel is being led by a right wing autocrat in Netanyahu who made an unholy alliance with radical Jewish zealots who want a Great War so the messiah can come. They’ve escalated in every way from bombing the Iranian consulate in Syria, assassinate Haniyeh in Iran,killing Nasrallah, launching a ground invasion into Lebanon. They’ve escalated from what we all expected this time last year. They are going for broke.
From all sources in the western media Israel is going to strike Iran.
Iran has said if Israel does that they will strike even harder than last time. Then what happens next? Israel will say to the US “see we did what you said and they still hit us again. We must bomb their nuclear sites along with their oil/gas facilities!” And then it becomes a back and forth until its becomes a regional war. At this point I’ve lost all hope for this war to stop. No one is doing anything to reel Israel in. And it doesn’t matter if Harris or Trump wins. They both are lapdogs for Israel.
 

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I wish this was the case but it isn’t. If this was rational Israel in the 70s,80s,90s I would agree. Israel is not rational. They could have went on a Hasbara propaganda spree saying the Iranian missiles were junk and didn’t hit Israel while giving themselves some rope to not have to retaliate against Iran. However that’s not the reality. Israel is being led by a right wing autocrat in Netanyahu who made an unholy alliance with radical Jewish zealots who want a Great War so the messiah can come. They’ve escalated in every way from bombing the Iranian consulate in Syria, assassinate Haniyeh in Iran,killing Nasrallah, launching a ground invasion into Lebanon. They’ve escalated from what we all expected this time last year. They are going for broke.
From all sources in the western media Israel is going to strike Iran.
Iran has said if Israel does that they will strike even harder than last time. Then what happens next? Israel will say to the US “see we did what you said and they still hit us again. We must bomb their nuclear sites along with their oil/gas facilities!” And then it becomes a back and forth until its becomes a regional war. At this point I’ve lost all hope for this war to stop. No one is doing anything to reel Israel in. And it doesn’t matter if Harris or Trump wins. They both are lapdogs for Israel.
It's not about what Israel wants, it's about what USA can survive.

Even NK has been woken up lately, and that's absolutely no coincidence.

If US goes to Iran, most of their forces can't be moved out again if something happens in Asia.

Israel might be US' balls, but Asia is US' brain. SK and Japan carry US in shipbuilding and advanced industry. Which is why Netanyahu asked for a retaliation on Oct 7 yet nothing happened.

The war surely won't stop so fast, there is still a long attrition to go. But US won't carry Israel because of US' own power constraints. And as so, Israel cannot directly fight Iran either.
 

JJD1803

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Today saw some of the heaviest clashes in Sourh Lebanon right now. Apparently Israeli soldiers fell under a deadly ambush from Hezbollah at the Ramia- Aita Al Shaab- Qawzah triangle. So far there is an Israeli media blackout of the clashes. But it’s reported about 50 injured soldiers being medevaced Rambam Hospital in Haifa and 5 to Beilinison Hospital in Tel Aviv. Rambam Hospital declared a mass casualty even after receiving 8 helicopters after the ambush.

update*
Israeli media confirms 5 KIA from the ambush.
 
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jiajia99

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It's not about what Israel wants, it's about what USA can survive.

Even NK has been woken up lately, and that's absolutely no coincidence.

If US goes to Iran, most of their forces can't be moved out again if something happens in Asia.

Israel might be US' balls, but Asia is US' brain. SK and Japan carry US in shipbuilding and advanced industry. Which is why Netanyahu asked for a retaliation on Oct 7 yet nothing happened.

The war surely won't stop so fast, there is still a long attrition to go. But US won't carry Israel because of US' own power constraints. And as so, Israel cannot directly fight Iran either.
Hmmm, each time Israel gets into a scrap with anyone now, they seem to lose no matter what, whether it is loss of personal they cannot replace, reduction of weapons with cannot be replenished all that quick or reputation damage due to its cowardly atrocities that is alienating those that matter which in effect does real reputation damage to the US which helps to boost Chinas reputation with little input on Chinas behalf.

The USA could’ve easily prevented this by getting rid of Netanyahu but no they choose to double, triple and quadruple down on mass stupid and honestly, if Israel does strike Iran and Iran retaliates hard, that would seriously ruin the US beyond recovery. Still, we have yet to see how low they can sink as of now, they can still sink lower
 
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Hmmm, each time Israel gets into a scrap with anyone now, they seem to lose no matter what, whether it is loss of personal they cannot replace, reduction of weapons with cannot be replenished all that quick or reputation damage due to its cowardly atrocities that is alienating those that matter which in effect does real reputation damage to the US which helps to boost Chinas reputation with little input on Chinas behalf.

The USA could’ve easily prevented this by getting rid of Netanyahu but no they choose to double, triple and quadruple down on mass stupid and honestly, if Israel does strike Iran and Iran retaliates hard, that would seriously ruin the US beyond recovery. Still, we have yet to see how low they can sink as of now, they can still sink lower
This is what happens when your president is suffering from dementia
 

taxiya

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Israel has very strong demographics, that plus near endless military and financial supports from abroad means it can keep up high intensity warfare forever.
You are talking about military and financial support from US which is all Israel can get. However US' low intensity warfare in Afghanistan lasted for 20 years, just a blink in the historical scale. You think this US pocket is deeper than that US pocket?
 
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