Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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Michael90

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Israel looks bad for killing civilians including women and children. That is independent of what Iran does. If Iran wants to look good, it needs to kill a ton of Israeli military/Mossad members. It if kills civilians, it looks immoral. If it kills nobody, it looks incompetent.
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Not really. That's how it should be normally if this region or conflict was like others I.e a normal one. Lol Bit it's everything except that.
So even if Iranian missiles hasn't killed any Israeli whatsoever it will still be seen or used by Iran for good optics to show they retaliated at least which is something they absolutely needed to reassure their proxies in the region and maintain some sort of legitimacy as the leader and God Father of the resistance acts forces in the region. Just like the earlier strike where Iran had to show they did something(even though it was later revealed they warned their adversary days before they launched the missiles ) . It still created some form of win for Iran in the eyes of her supporters. Casualties or damage is secondary or even irrelevant what they want is to show they are not powerless .
For Israel it would actually be a good thing if Iran can somehow launch an even bigger assault against Israel, since this will justify Israel using full force and fight Iran thereby silence all the critics of this conflict been merely a strong Israel bullying a weak defenceless Palestine and be more of a real country to country warfare and thereby be less controversial and thereby draw the US into the war to support Israel. This is actually what Israel wants I.e A full Iranian direct involvement against Israel. Not through proxies only which is more difficult and complex to fight since Iran has plausible deniability when using her many proxies in the region.
 
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Israel's military says it will respond powerfully​


Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari has said that the Israeli Air Force will "strike powerfully in the Middle East" tonight.

“The Israeli and US air defence systems operated effectively" on the barrage of Iranian missiles, he says in an update.

“Iran carried out a serious act tonight and is pushing the Middle East to an escalation," he adds.

"Tonight’s event will have consequences."
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Guess we will find out soon.
 
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A lot of impacts on the ground this time around. Nevatim airbase was particularly badly hit with what looked like around 20 impacts, with at least one secondary explosion. Hopefully Israel managed to get all the F-35s airborne.
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According to themselves.
 
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'We should strike Khamenei' Senior Israeli official calls for action against Iranian leadership​

A senior Israeli security official has urged Israel to take decisive action against Iran’s leadership, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, following the latest missile attack on Israel. "We should expect to strike government centers and possibly eliminate figures like Khamenei," the official told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday, calling for a targeted response that includes Iran’s military infrastructure and aircraft.

The call for direct action comes in the wake of a massive aerial assault on Tuesday night, when Iran launched 180 ballistic missiles toward Israel, prompting rocket sirens across the country and sending residents scrambling for shelter. While Israeli air defenses intercepted dozens of rockets, significant damage occurred, including a direct hit on a building inTel Aviv and a school in Gedera.

Targeting Iran’s leadership​

The senior security official emphasized that Israel’s response must be strategic and swift. According to the official, Iran’s Supreme Leader is not only behind the recent attacks but also seeking to further destabilize the region by pursuing nuclear capabilities. "Khamenei wants a conventional attack and is seeking backing for nuclear weapons. Israel must destroy Iran’s nuclear sites now," the official said.

The official laid out three critical objectives for Israel’s counter-strike, with the primary goal being to weaken the Iranian regime itself. "We need to go beyond military sites and strike at the heart of the regime," the official said, adding that eliminating figures such as Khamenei would deliver a strong message to Tehran and its allies.

Economic and military targets​

The official also called for targeting Iran's economic infrastructure as part of the response. "After neutralizing their nuclear capabilities, we must go after Iran’s economy—oil, gas, communications, and banking," the official said. "This will demonstrate that Iran cannot act with impunity."

The final element of the proposed response involves crippling Iran’s military infrastructure. "We should down some of their planes—although they don’t have many—and destroy missile production facilities," the official added.

Iran's retaliation​

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards quickly claimed responsibility for the attack, stating that it was in retaliation for the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, who was killed in a recent Israeli airstrike. Tehran has warned that any Israeli counter-strike would result in a "decisive blow" to Israel.

Tuesday's missile strike is the second confrontation between Israel and Iran this year, following a similar attack in April. However, the scale of this latest assault was much larger, with Israeli air defenses shooting down dozens of missiles. Damage from the attack was felt nationwide, including in Tel Aviv, Dimona, and Beersheba.

Regional tensions

The attack has also caused a ripple effect across the region. Jordan and Iraq swiftly closed their airspace, while Ben-Gurion Airport temporarily halted all flights, causing disruptions. U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan confirmed that Washington is closely monitoring the situation and warned that further Iranian aggression would carry "severe consequences."

IDF preparedness​

Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, the IDF spokesperson, reassured Israelis that the country is prepared for any scenario. "We are ready, both offensively and defensively, to handle any attack from Iran," Hagari said, adding that Israel’s air defenses have been successful in intercepting a significant number of incoming missiles.

National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir also announced mobilizing 13,000 emergency standby squads to help manage the ongoing crisis.
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I saw some posts that the WSJ supposedly said Israel threaten Iran with attacks on nuclear sites if they retaliated (which they did just now). Well turns out they are saying that. So if they do go ahead. Then should we expect $300 per oil barrel?

"We should expect to strike government centers and possibly eliminate figures like Khamenei," the official told The Jerusalem Post
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Israel must destroy Iran’s nuclear sites now," the official said.
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we must go after Iran’s economy—oil, gas, communications, and banking," the official said
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