Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

zhangjim

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It looks very pessimistic news. The image should have been reposted from another platform, but I'm not sure how to find the original URL.

The general content is to explain that Israel has completed the blockade in Gaza and demolished all buildings in the red zone. Engineers are exploring every cave above the depth of groundwater and attempting to destroy them.

The resistance must do something to break the blockade, and the Israelis also plan to mobilize a large number of troops to defend the separation zone.

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Perhaps this long battle is approaching its final moments, but I don't believe any miracle will be born. Perhaps we will all witness a cruel tragedy: the most brutal massacre of the 21st century allowed by the United States.
 

coolgod

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It looks very pessimistic news. The image should have been reposted from another platform, but I'm not sure how to find the original URL.

The general content is to explain that Israel has completed the blockade in Gaza and demolished all buildings in the red zone. Engineers are exploring every cave above the depth of groundwater and attempting to destroy them.

The resistance must do something to break the blockade, and the Israelis also plan to mobilize a large number of troops to defend the separation zone.

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Perhaps this long battle is approaching its final moments, but I don't believe any miracle will be born. Perhaps we will all witness a cruel tragedy: the most brutal massacre of the 21st century allowed by the United States.
I mean we're all still waiting for Iran's supposed retaliation. With core allies like Iran, no wonder the Palestinians are suffering.

Meanwhile the Iranian president is discussing how to move Iran's capital closer to the gulf coast.
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Iran’s new president wants to move capital out of Tehran​

 
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It looks very pessimistic news. The image should have been reposted from another platform, but I'm not sure how to find the original URL.

The general content is to explain that Israel has completed the blockade in Gaza and demolished all buildings in the red zone. Engineers are exploring every cave above the depth of groundwater and attempting to destroy them.

The resistance must do something to break the blockade, and the Israelis also plan to mobilize a large number of troops to defend the separation zone.

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Perhaps this long battle is approaching its final moments, but I don't believe any miracle will be born. Perhaps we will all witness a cruel tragedy: the most brutal massacre of the 21st century allowed by the United States.
maps mean nothing in this war. this is not a conventional war in which one military advances and kicks out the defending one. the width of the Gaza strip ranges from about 5.5km to about 11 km from the northern part to the south. do you know how small that is? the local supermarket that I go to once a week is 6.3km from my house, if there is a traffic jam it takes me 25 minutes to reach it, and if the traffic is ok it takes me 15 mintues. the Gaza strip is mostly as small as that in terms of width! if this was a convential war in which maps showing the destruction or the control of one side mattered then this war should have ended along time ago. because almost every single part of Gaza has been walked on By IDF soldiers and their tanks except small areas in the south I think, yet it's now been 11 months and the IDF still can't control the strip, they just enter an area which they already entered several times already, clash with Hamas, retreat before bombing the area and going back in again and then clash with Hamas again. Hamas most likely suffered about 5k dead but they replaced alot or perhaps most of these losses with new volunteers.

this long battle is far from reaching it's final moments. after more than 11 months Hamas most likely still has more than 60%-70% of it's forces and the losses are being replaced. IMO I think Hamas can last about 8 more months before being completely militarily defeated.

if Palestine losses then US vassals like Jordan and Egypt are fked. because if Israel wins they will definitely kick out all the millions of Palestinians to Egypt & Jordan, Egypt may not be that much affected at first but Jordan will be finished as a state, once mllions of Palestinians flee to Jordan the half British Zionist Hashemite "king" of Jordan will have to flee back to his true homeland that is the UK especially since already a significant portion of the Jordanian population are Palestinians and if Israel empties the west bank of Palestinians then that adds more than two million Palestinians to Jordan and Jordan will become a second Palestine.
 

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I mean we're all still waiting for Iran's supposed retaliation. With core allies like Iran, no wonder the Palestinians are suffering.

Meanwhile the Iranian president is discussing how to move Iran's capital closer to the gulf coast.
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Iran’s new president wants to move capital out of Tehran​

while personaly I do whish that Iran would become much more aggressive but honestly I can't blame Iran for their hesitance. asking them to go to war with Israel for the sake of Palestine is basically asking them to sacrafice their country for the sake of others. because a war with Israel will definitely mean the US will go to war full force. Iran is already doing what it can by arming the Houthies and Hezbolah. and Hezbolah is basicaly at the edge in terms of the aggressiveness in which they can deal with Israel without getting Lebanon dragged into a full scale war.
 

Overbom

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Iran can also basically wait until US has to withdraw it's CSGs from the region.

The US has to withdraw because they are basically leaving open the door to China to do whatever it wants in the Asia-Pacific

The American Empire is getting overextended in the Russian, Chinese, and now Iranian front. Something has to give
 

coolgod

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Iran can also basically wait until US has to withdraw it's CSGs from the region.

The US has to withdraw because they are basically leaving open the door to China to do whatever it wants in the Asia-Pacific

The American Empire is getting overextended in the Russian, Chinese, and now Iranian front. Something has to give
There are only a finite number of Palestinians, they can't wait forever. Also there are no US CSG in the pacific, I don't see China doing anything different right now. Sullivan came to Beijing to beg China cooperate with the US economically and militarily, it seems like at least latter condition was accepted.
 

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There are only a finite number of Palestinians,
The actual number is still quite functionally infinite. There's the ones in the west bank, "naturalized" 2nd class citizens inside Israel itself, and all of Jordan.

Hamas mobilization probably covers the few thousand losses they've had. And there's reserves of maybe 100-200k in just Gaza alone. But in reality they're also mobilizing from other Arabs that can claim they're "Palestinian".

There is the saying "gradually and then suddenly" but imo Gaza itself probably holds at least 1 year more, especially with Israel running low on weapons and taking a lot of losses. And then there's all the other de facto "Palestine" forces.
they can't wait forever. Also there are no US CSG in the pacific, I don't see China doing anything different right now. Sullivan came to Beijing to beg China cooperate with the US economically and militarily, it seems like at least latter condition was accepted.
Maybe if we see some major concessions from US, there could be some merit to that speculation. I wouldn't really count on it, China is still very much showing by actions they're working on overstretching US, any temporary lull in pressure should be read as a calibration to more optimally spread out pressure later. For example letting Iran front cool for a few months while using the time to upgrade their weapons and bringing more attention/bait to the Russia front. This type of switch and bait has been done a lot of times ever since 2022.
 

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Israeli strike on Masyaf (near Homs), Syria. IDF says an Irani missile factory was targeted. Meanwhile, Syrians reporting damage to electrical and water lines across several cities.
Just say it's an Iranian facility and bomb it.

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It looks very pessimistic news. The image should have been reposted from another platform, but I'm not sure how to find the original URL.

The general content is to explain that Israel has completed the blockade in Gaza and demolished all buildings in the red zone. Engineers are exploring every cave above the depth of groundwater and attempting to destroy them.

The resistance must do something to break the blockade, and the Israelis also plan to mobilize a large number of troops to defend the separation zone.

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Perhaps this long battle is approaching its final moments, but I don't believe any miracle will be born. Perhaps we will all witness a cruel tragedy: the most brutal massacre of the 21st century allowed by the United States.
It isn't "allowed" by the US. It is being done by the US. The bombs are made in the US by Americans. The planes are made in the US by Americans. The intelligence is provided by Americans. The orders are given by Americans. The carriers and bases on stand by are all American. The UN vetoes and political cover are all provided by Americans. The only thing Israeli is the flag.
 
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