Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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US intel indicates war between Israel and Hezbollah inching closer​

A large-scale confrontation between Israel and Hezbollah is likely to break out in the next several weeks if Jerusalem and Hamas fail to reach a cease-fire deal in Gaza, U.S. intelligence indicates.

U.S. officials are trying to convince both sides to deescalate — a task that would be significantly easier with a cease-fire in place in Gaza. But that agreement is in tense negotiations and U.S. officials are not confident Israel and Hamas will agree to the deal on the table in the near future. Meanwhile, the Israel Defense Forces and Hezbollah have drafted battle plans and are in the process of trying to procure additional weapons, according to two senior U.S. officials briefed on the intelligence.

Both sides have publicly said they do not want to go to war, but senior Biden officials increasingly believe that intense fighting is likely to break out despite efforts to try and prevent it.

The risk is higher now than at any other point in recent weeks, according to another senior U.S. official, who, like others in this story, was granted anonymity to speak freely about sensitive intelligence.

A war between Israel and Hezbollah could ignite a conflict that forces the U.S. to help defend Jerusalem and pushes the Biden administration to engage more deeply in a region it has for years tried to leave. It also risks another humanitarian disaster, punching the aid community at a time when it is already stretched thin and trying to manage the crisis in Gaza.

The U.S. intelligence offers a slightly more conservative assessment than those coming from parts of Europe. Some European countries calculate that a war between Israel and Hezbollah could happen in days. Many have advised their citizens to leave Lebanon. Canada is also preparing to evacuate thousands from the country. The State Department on Thursday issued a travel advisory for U.S. citizens, urging them to “strongly reconsider” travel to Lebanon.

Two of the senior officials stressed that it was unclear when exactly the war could start but noted that Israel is trying to rebuild its stockpiles and troop capacity quickly.

National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said the administration is working toward a “diplomatic resolution” that would allow Israeli and Lebanese citizens to return to their homes.

“We also continue efforts to secure a deal that would lead to a durable end to the war in Gaza,” she said. “A cease-fire and hostage deal in Gaza will accelerate the possibility of progress, including lasting security and calm along Israel’s northern border with Lebanon. That deal is now with Hamas. The decision is in Hamas’ hands.”
Some European countries calculate that a war between Israel and Hezbollah could happen in days.
A large-scale confrontation between Israel and Hezbollah is likely to break out in the next several weeks if Jerusalem and Hamas fail to reach a cease-fire deal in Gaza, U.S. intelligence indicates.

Did anyone catch that? If Hama doesn’t agree to Israeli terms. They will invade Lebanon. The possibility of war was never contingent on negotiations with Hezbollah.

Operation Barbarossa 2.0 here we come.
 

phrozenflame

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With the way the terrain and fortifications in Lebanon are, I don't think this israeli "blitz" will have the intial success Barbarossa had.
Israel's goal is to 'mow the grass' that includes bombing Lebenon to oblivion.
It's hard to keep entire society convinced forever that everyone else is sub-human if no enemies remain. Zionism today survives and thrives on cycle of violence.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Israel's goal is to 'mow the grass' that includes bombing Lebenon to oblivion.
It's hard to keep entire society convinced forever that everyone else is sub-human if no enemies remain. Zionism today survives and thrives on cycle of violence.
Israel don't have that ability lol.

They could do it on Gaza because it is an incredibly little place, but the whole of Lebanon not only is far, far bigger with way more cities and buildings.

Hezbollah also very much has the ability to strike back at Israeli mitary bases, including airbases.

Also, it is doubtful that Israel even has enough munitions to even do a repeat of Gaza bombing in the shorter time frame (a yearish).
 

jiajia99

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Israel don't have that ability lol.

They could do it on Gaza because it is an incredibly little place, but the whole of Lebanon not only is far, far bigger with way more cities and buildings.

Hezbollah also very much has the ability to strike back at Israeli mitary bases, including airbases.

Also, it is doubtful that Israel even has enough munitions to even do a repeat of Gaza bombing in the shorter time frame (a yearish).
Mostly likely, Israel will act first but if they do go first instead of Hezbollah, they are not going to get much worldwide sympathy when they get struck back and given how most of the region knows just how weak their air defenses are based on their performance in fending off the Iranian strike a few months ago, I wonder how many days the Israel air defense will last given the limited stockpiles of cash, weapons and manpower. The iron dome can only do so much and weapons have only advanced from the time that the Iron dome is the end all and be all in the region
 

Michaelsinodef

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Mostly likely, Israel will act first but if they do go first instead of Hezbollah, they are not going to get much worldwide sympathy when they get struck back and given how most of the region knows just how weak their air defenses are based on their performance in fending off the Iranian strike a few months ago, I wonder how many days the Israel air defense will last given the limited stockpiles of cash, weapons and manpower. The iron dome can only do so much and weapons have only advanced from the time that the Iron dome is the end all and be all in the region
It is very likely that IDF will go into Lebanon.

If they don't, well, Hezbollah will continue attacking northern Israel with drones and missiles.
 

jiajia99

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It is very likely that IDF will go into Lebanon.

If they don't, well, Hezbollah will continue attacking northern Israel with drones and missiles.
Which is mostly in response to the situation in Gaza (right or wrong isn’t the point, but it was stated as part of the motive for the attacks if one believes it or not). Still as long as Hezbollah keeps up these attacks into Israel and atrophy the defenses in the north of Israel, this will certainly not have a very positive affect on the economy or the military capability of Israel moving forward. The longer this continues, the more unstable the political climate in Israel will become which could end up pushing Israel down further on the path to a failed state. Netanyahu and by extension his backers are running out of time.
 

sheogorath

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Gotta hand it to Netanyahu, he would rather decimate Israel's global standing and diplomacy, drag the US with them, and weaken the country to the point it could eventually go the way of Rhodesia, all to avoid going to jail. I guess running away to another country with no extradition treaties is passe.

Can't go to jail if the country that wants to jail you doesn't exist anymore.
 
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