Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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And Biden went on TV and put all the onus on Hamas to accept his ceasefire proposal. Now we have Israel rejecting it. If China put out the best ceasefire proposal ever, the US would reject it because they wouldn't want China to get any credit. It's a joke to believe Israel is for any ceasefire because a continued war serves their aims which is to get rid of the Palestinians and take their land for themselves.
 
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It's hard to buy that a (few) bootleg hq-2s in surface fire mode can pass through any competent air defense. That's the type of attack even a frigate would be expected to hold off independently.

And Houthis as far as they've claimed didn't even use sea drones or any massive waves that would be more noticed.

It's pretty much 100% US itself shooting in the foot by fueling unlikely houthi claims through their own weird behavior. Otherwise there would be 0 probability of a hit.

The captain should be fired, his behavior is like those Ukrainian conscript that post on reddit where they train so they immediately get bombed. He's in a warzone and somehow managed to tweet twice both times adding massive fuel to houthi claims.

Imagine if he was fighting a real national military, don't even think about a peer power like China, even something like Egypt or Iran that has actual weapons.
 
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Michaelsinodef

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RottenPanzer said:
So the current narrative that i could see is that the Carrier Captain intentionally turn off much of the EW capability of the ship in order to tweet on X, which resulted it being hit by a bootleg Silkworm?

Is that correct?
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On the technical and capability level, they should have been able to defend against the attacks that Houthi (more correctly Ansarallah) did (assuming proper maintenance).

So, if a hit did happen, likely more due to human error or the likes.
 
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RottenPanzer said:
So the current narrative that i could see is that the Carrier Captain intentionally turn off much of the EW capability of the ship in order to tweet on X, which resulted it being hit by a bootleg Silkworm?

Is that correct?
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I don't buy it. They're using the same tactics as the Israelis when their Hanit got hit: we are invincible; all hits are by accident. What idiot would actually turn off their defensive systems in an actual warzone?

Anyways, a topographic map helps explain the difficulty in interception; both sides of Bab el Mandeb (and most of Red Sea) is mountainous while the strait itself is only ~30km wide at it's narrowest point.
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If it's a sea-skimming CM (Kh-55 derivative @ Mach 0.7), the ships only have a few minutes to intercept any incoming missile. If it's a HQ-2 @ Mach 3+, they have maybe 33 seconds?
 
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