Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

pevade

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Can you imagine if Chinese or Iranian anti-ship missiles have found their way to Hamas' hands..

Very unlikely but it would be the joke of the century if something happened lol
Well it is possible.
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On 14 July 2006, it was damaged after being struck by a
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I wonder if Iran will give its proxies some fancier Chinese AShMs
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Despite above reports of initial Hamas successes, I honestly can't see what they hope to achieve, other than psychological effects.

The balance of forces is just too lopsided. Someone compared this to the Tet Offensive. We should remember that the Viet Cong was crushed in the afterwards retaliation and the US only left Vietnam because it wasn't worth the cost anymore. That is not something Israel is going to do.

The most likely outcome of this is that Hamas will be crushed, its leadership wiped out, and lots of Palestinians will die.
Palestinians were living like caged animals. There's no future for them other than a slow purge. If they resist, at least they'll get some sympathy and room at the negotiating table. In fact, they will not be given anything for staying quiet. The only way to get anything in this life is to fiercely resist injustice and let the chips fall how they may.
 

Lethe

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“There were two ‘Reigns of Terror’, if we would but remember it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred million; but our shudders are all for the horrors of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror. A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been taught so diligently to shiver at; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older Terror—that unspeakably bitter Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves." -- Mark Twain
 

Bellum_Romanum

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To @solarz how should the leaders of these Arab-Muslim majority countries thread on the current Palestinian vs Israel conflict when the population of these countries are so passionate and emotional with the Palestinian cause. Should they (leaders) pretend that the will of their people are irrelevant and simply go along with the wishes of the American-Israel-Saudi interest? Would such action produce another hyper-nationalist group rising from the ashes of HAMAS to continue the fight against what they perceived as OCCUPIERS.

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As Ghassan Khanafani (a SOCIALIST-Palestinian intellectual and nationalist) eloquently pointed out in this interview before he was ASSASSINATED by Israel. The views he expressed here (1972) remains the same almost 50 years later.

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tankphobia

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To @solarz how should the leaders of these Arab-Muslim majority countries thread on the current Palestinian vs Israel conflict when the population of these countries are so passionate and emotional with the Palestinian cause. Should they (leaders) pretend that the will of their people are irrelevant and simply go along with the wishes of the American-Israel-Saudi interest? Would such action produce another hyper-nationalist group rising from the ashes of HAMAS to continue the fight against what they perceived as OCCUPIERS.

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As Ghassan Khanafani (a SOCIALIST-Palestinian intellectual and nationalist) eloquently pointed out in this interview before he was ASSASSINATED by Israel. The views he expressed here (1972) remains the same almost 50 years later.

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I think while the cause is just, not only is there no clear cut resolution that will be acceptable to both parties, the methods of resistance is also basically just terrorism. If say the Arab nations do a rematch with their conventional army to expel the Israeli it should be easier to stomach.

But instead you have Hamas doing a complicated offensive just to start shooting civilians in the street, parading their dead bodies around which is not really achieving the objectives for the Palestinian cause in regaining their homeland, only inviting Israel to bomb Gaza harder.
 

lube

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Dont need all of em, just enough to send supplies/volunteers would already cause a major for Israel. Not every American is on board with Ukraine either.
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The people Hamas wanted to affect are affected.
Doubly so if Israel starts mowing down Palestinian civilians in the invasion.

Incidentally, denying Biden a diplomatic win before the elections.
I fully expect Biden to take out some of that frustration on Hamas or Iran.
 
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