Israeli Military Says Missile Struck Warship Instead of Drone

bd popeye said:

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Ahemm..not exactly a "panic meeting"..Yea right. They were more than likely "analizing data gathered". My friend went to work Saturday and Sunday for 12 hours each day. Ouch..Enough said....If I could get a hold of him I bet He is working 12 hour shifts this week also.

Personally I do not believe the IDF ships SAAR 5 was "off"..That's BS IMO..the IDF ship got caught with their pants down....

I also find it very suspicous that the IDF has realeased no pics of the damaged ship. I really wanna see those pics!

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Finn McCool said:

As for the Egyptian ship-The sailors said that their ship was sunk by an Israeli gunboat firing in all directions. It is possible that the Israeli ships in the area opened fire randomly after the Saar 5 was hit.

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INS Hanit Suffers Iranian Missile Attack

Updated: July 17, 2006:

According to Israel Defense Forces (IDF) sources, the attack was conducted by Chinese C-802. Apparently, two missiles were launched toward the Israel Navy Ship (INS) Hanit (Spear), SAAR V class corvette patrolling the Lebanese coast 16 kilometers from the shore. The attack was a coordinated, simultaneous “high/low” attack - the first “high” missile passed over the Israeli ship. Missing the target, it continued flying, hitting and sinking a civilian Egyptian ship cruising 60 kilometers from the shore. The second missile followed a sea-skimming flight profile hitting the Israeli vessel at the stern, killing four sailors and setting the flight deck on fire and crippling the propulsion systems inside the hull. Surviving the potentially devastating attack INS Hanit returned to Ashdod naval base for repairs.

The simultaneous attack was probably using two techniques as well, ensuring maximum chances of success. The Israeli Navy believes the missiles used targeing data from Lebanese coastal radars, therefore maintaining low electro-magnetic signature throughout the attack prparation phase. The first missiles was apparently used as a radar-guided “bait”. seducing the ship to deploy its defensive systems against it, focusing all the attention on the “obvious” threat while the second sea-skimming missile closing below. A supporting fact for this assumption is the fact that the first missile locked on the unfortunate Egyptian ship 44 kilometers away, as it was the next visible target in its flightpath. The second, missile could have been guided by radar or, more probably, Electro-optically. This method would require the launch of two types of missiles, a C-801/802 for the “high” profile and a C-701 TV guided missile for the “low” profile.

According to an Associated Press report, based on an interview with an unnamed IDF official, the Israeli vessel didn’t use its electronic countermeasures systems as they did not anticipate such a threat in the area. Yet, this comment is questionable, as there were repeated intelligence reports about Iranian supplies of sophisticated equipment, missiles and drones to the Hizbollah. However, the naval or coastal defense missiles were not mentioned specifically, leading the Israelis to remain unaware of the imminent threat.

C-801 radar guided anti-ship missile weighs about 750 kg, it is powered by a rocket motor and has a range of 40 km and is equipped with 100 kg warhead. The upgraded C-802 uses a rocket booster for launch, and a turbojet cruise motor, giving it a range of up to 140. The warhead uses about 180 kg of shaped charge explosives, which makes it a most capable threat to major warships including U.S. aircraft carriers. The C-701, (also known as Iranian Kosar) is deployed with Iranian forces as a truck mounted coastal defense missile, it is much smaller than the C-801/802, weighing about 100 kg, its range is about 18-20 km and the warhead has 29 kg of explosives, set with a delayed activation fuze to maximize internal damage after hull penetration. It uses an Infrared/TV seeker or active millimeter terminal guidance.

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Jeff Head said:

Here are some more pics that confirm this IMHO. These are normal pics of Saar 5s, not associated with yesterdays attack.

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tphuang said:

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This has a link to Janes interveiw with IDF.

It basically says Barak wasn't fully activated, but the other systems like the CIWS couldn't stop the missile either and the EW suite couldn't disrupt the missile.

It says the missile was fired from 16 km out and hit it without activating any of the ship's systems. I guess it's possible that it came so short and fast that the sensors simply didn't detect it?

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