ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Missiles that hit the ground leave debris just like downed Missiles do. Showing the Missiles debris out of context doesn't mean much to prove or disprove any claims.
 
Apr 17, 2018
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the article made a point, which is

"GEN. MCKENZIE: You can look at the map -- you can particularly at the Barzeh site and make your own conclusions."

(quoting Department of Defense Press Briefing by Pentagon Chief Spokesperson Dana W. White and Joint Staff Director Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr. in the Pentagon Briefing Room
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me? in the past, one 12" shell would deliver something like a quarter of GJ (gigajoule) of energy (kinetic plus denotation of TNT equivalent), and 76 of these would plow this hectare:
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a TLAM has slightly lower kinetic energy, but I think its blast is bigger (LOL of course I don't know what exactly is in the warhead), so no, I don't believe that compound was hit that many times
("Against the first target, the Barzeh Research and Development Center, which is located in the greater Damascus area, we employed 76 missiles; 57 of these were Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles, and 19 were joint air-to-surface standoff missiles, or JASSMs." to Department of Defense Press Briefing by Pentagon Chief Spokesperson Dana W. White and Joint Staff Director Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr. in the Pentagon Briefing Room
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just my 'reasonable doubt' here

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plus there's the accuracy issue:

no 'near miss' there
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but with 76 hits announced by the Pentagon, I would've liked to see at least one hole in the 'hood; why? (in addition to the statistics hahaha)

at the other site ('weapons storage close to Homs') my untrained eye sees spots which I put in the yellow ellipses below (the original picture comes from DigitalGlobe, accessed it through
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where you could see the view 'before' etc.):
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(you might blame the French/English for these LOL!)

my whole point is
If Something Sounds Too Good To Be True,
It Isn't


by the way what's your theory for an absence of craters anywhere in that compound?
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now
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from inside (EDIT just one picture due to 5 images per post limit):
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the captions are like
  • top-left: TLAM's warhead
  • bottom-left: a part of TLAM's engine
  • top-right: parts of TLAM's guidance computer
  • bottom-right: TLAM's parts
 
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taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
The result of Syrian anti-aircraft missile's impact, marked in white circles. Of course, people can dispute that these damages are caused by something else, but then there is no point to continue debating as it will drag in demand of 3rd party natural ballistic forensic experts which we all know is not going to happen.
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Apr 17, 2018

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from inside (EDIT just one picture due to 5 images per post limit):
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the captions are like
  • top-left: TLAM's warhead
  • bottom-left: a part of TLAM's engine
  • top-right: parts of TLAM's guidance computer
  • bottom-right: TLAM's parts
and after for example

Four Outlandish Russian Ministry of Defense Claims About The Syrian Missile Raid
In one single press conference, the Kremlin has disputed almost every basic detail about the American, British, and French operation.
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April 16, 2018

or Tuesday at 12:18 PM
Would Russia Really Sell to Syria the S-300 Air Defense System? (And Why It Might Not Matter)
April 23, 2018
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ends with "Thus, even with the S-300, Syria would have no defense against an American cruise missile attack."

it'll be interesting to see if the US authors like Majumdar, Rogoway now ignore, or quote unquote debunk
(perhaps by saying it's all scrap what the Kremlin showed? LOL including the electronics)
 

nicky

Junior Member
anybody read it full?
must be something:
two french frigates were unable to launch missiles against targets in syria and
the mystery of epic fail of the french airmen ...

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I didn't follow ISIL in Damascus much:
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NEW MAP:
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forces and allied Palestinian militias have liberated Al-Madaniyah and areas north of Al-Joura district from
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now a newer map (
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personally urban combat totally scares me, so I didn't watch, but post in case you're interested:
 
LOL I guess it's time to get back to Friday at 7:30 AM
Yesterday at 8:32 AM
Apr 17, 2018

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from inside (EDIT just one picture due to 5 images per post limit):
5391287_original.jpg


the captions are like
  • top-left: TLAM's warhead
  • bottom-left: a part of TLAM's engine
  • top-right: parts of TLAM's guidance computer
  • bottom-right: TLAM's parts
and after for example

Four Outlandish Russian Ministry of Defense Claims About The Syrian Missile Raid
In one single press conference, the Kremlin has disputed almost every basic detail about the American, British, and French operation.
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April 16, 2018

or Tuesday at 12:18 PM
Would Russia Really Sell to Syria the S-300 Air Defense System? (And Why It Might Not Matter)
April 23, 2018
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ends with "Thus, even with the S-300, Syria would have no defense against an American cruise missile attack."

it'll be interesting to see if the US authors like Majumdar, Rogoway now ignore, or quote unquote debunk
(perhaps by saying it's all scrap what the Kremlin showed? LOL including the electronics)
all I noticed is

This Awesome Chart Shows All The Assets Used In The Trilateral Missile Strikes On Syria
April 29, 2018
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now, and previously under blogs some US fanbois saying what Russians showed were duds (I said "some" fanbois, the rest of them claiming just debris etc.);
of course nothing at like main stream servers DefenseNews, USNI News, BreakingDefense ...

I can imagine it's risky to debunk: what if 'the Russians had Garry Powers'
Apr 19, 2018
now noticed the tweet
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sez it's found two unexploded cruise
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from last weekend's attack in "rather good condition," has turned them over to
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who sent them by air to
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for further examination
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huh?
 

timepass

Brigadier
Syria regime, US-backed forces in deadly clashes: monitor

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"Rare clashes broke out on Sunday between Syrian regime forces and a US-backed alliance in the east of the country, killing a total of 15 combatants, a war monitor said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitor said the clashes in Deir Ezzor province killed nine pro-regime fighters and six members of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces."

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