ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

thunderchief

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Re: 2014 ISIS attack in Iraq: News, Views, Photos, Videos

Interesting article about various airforces attacking ISIS

Who Else — Besides Americans — Are Flying Fighter Jets In Iraq?

U.S. President Barack Obama at the White House after he talks about the humanitarian relief situation in Iraq on Thursday.

U.S. airstrikes on Islamic State positions have begun.

Fighter jets also bombed Islamic State militants in northwest Iraq on Thursday night. But it's not clear who the pilots were.

The Pentagon immediately denied a New York Times report that the U.S. carried out Thursday's strikes.

Iraqi military officials told CNN and The Wall Street Journal that the Iraqi Air Force had struck ISIS targets near Erbil, which is the regional capital of Iraqi Kurdistan and host to hundreds of U.S. military advisers.

The Iraqi Air Force is poorly equipped, consisting of several Cessna planes carrying American-supplied Hellfire missiles, some American- and Russian-supplied helicopters, and Russian-made Su-25 aircraft.

@MichaelKelleyBI Or at least Russian and Iranian pilots in planes with iraqi insignia
— Garrett Khoury (@MockCasbah) August 8, 2014

Last month a Pentagon official told The Hill that the U.S. believed Iranian pilots were in the air in Iraq while denying that Russian personnel were operating in the area. But diplomatic sources told The Daily Beast that " Russian pilots will fly the planes due to a lack of Iraqi pilots with the proper training."

(Fittingly, g eopolitical expert Ian Bremmer of the Eurasia group told Bloomberg TV this morning that the U.S. was "fighting shoulder-to-shoulder, as it were, with the Russians and the Iranians.")

Garrett Khoury, the director of research at The Eastern Project, explained that the Iraqi Air Force "recently acquired around a dozen SU-25 ground attack aircraft from Russia (with more possibly coming from Belarus) ... [which] give them the ability to conduct serious ground-support operations.

Thursday's attack came two days after Iraqi jets struck an ISIS convoy near the northern city of Mosul.

"[The Su-25s] are Russian jets bearing Iraqi insignia, but possibly piloted by Russians," Khoury continued. "Iraq did use the SU-25 during the Saddam Hussein era, and there are probably former Iraqi pilots who flew them, but it has been at best 12 years since any Iraqi pilot got any significant flying time with the plane." .............................................


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Miragedriver

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Warning - the article has an extremely graphic picture!

Thank you for the post Kwaigonegin. People need to see this to get off their complacent behinds. This is so sad and disturbing that I do not have the words to describe what I am feeling. This sort of behavior is complete and totally uncalled for. Dear God. This a just unbelievable. Children are innocents that look up to adults. Anyone that betrays that sacred trust is pure evil.

I believe that all of us here know who the bad guys are. These individuals deserve no quarter!
 

asif iqbal

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If there is one country that knows Northern Iraq it's Turkey they have done operations for decades

ISIS have indicated they will be taking the fight to inside Turkey and calling Erdogan all sorts, but there is no leader like Erdogan and he just won majority again and if he decides to go after ISIS and I mean go after them you will 6 Turkish armoured divisions rolling into Iraq

Turkish has a 1 million man standing army the best equipped and trained military in the world Turkish special forces have been deployed all over the world second to none if they decide to launch a airborne invasion we will see the results

And to be honest I have no idea what so ever where the freggin hell ISIS and this group came from I just switched on the TV and ISIS was all over the news I have never even heard of them until recently who they are what they are doing it's very strange

Christians and Yazidis in Iraq along with Jewish people have lived side by side for thousands of years I mean thousands of years Iraq was such a mix of peoples and religions as was Syria all gone in a heart beat 2003 invasion broke the bond of sectarian divide now we have so many factions it's ridiculous

It is claimed 1,000 Christian civilians have been killed by ISIS in the last few weeks alone
 

asif iqbal

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Watch the whole thing

Jon Stewart of the United States to bring peace to the Middle East. Must Watch Stuff

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kwaigonegin

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Thank you for the post Kwaigonegin. People need to see this to get off their complacent behinds. This is so sad and disturbing that I do not have the words to describe what I am feeling. This sort of behavior is complete and totally uncalled for. Dear God. This a just unbelievable. Children are innocents that look up to adults. Anyone that betrays that sacred trust is pure evil.

I believe that all of us here know who the bad guys are. These individuals deserve no quarter!

no problema mi amigo.. I am like you.. when the atrocities and scale of brutality goes beyond the scope of human understanding it needs to be called out on its evilness.

While terrible crimes are common during wartime, ISIS is pure evil because they are driven by pure hate and highly misguided beliefs and theologies. The only cure is extermination. You cannot negotiate, compromise or bargain when people have already gone down that deep.
 
Re: 2014 ISIS attack in Iraq: News, Views, Photos, Videos

no problema mi amigo.. I am like you.. when the atrocities and scale of brutality goes beyond the scope of human understanding it needs to be called out on its evilness.

While terrible crimes are common during wartime, ISIS is pure evil because they are driven by pure hate and highly misguided beliefs and theologies. The only cure is extermination. You cannot negotiate, compromise or bargain when people have already gone down that deep.

i agree. i am a 90% pacifist, and oppose to most forms of violence. however when you have people who really only believes in death and hatred, they are truly dangerous. in fact, they are much more dangerous than al qaida is, if considering even the al qaida are distancing themselves away from them. if only they gather up into one location, someone should drop a nuke and wipe them all out.

their intent is not religious, political, or human..they are just evil
 
Re: 2014 ISIS attack in Iraq: News, Views, Photos, Videos

If there is one country that knows Northern Iraq it's Turkey they have done operations for decades

ISIS have indicated they will be taking the fight to inside Turkey and calling Erdogan all sorts, but there is no leader like Erdogan and he just won majority again and if he decides to go after ISIS and I mean go after them you will 6 Turkish armoured divisions rolling into Iraq

Turkish has a 1 million man standing army the best equipped and trained military in the world Turkish special forces have been deployed all over the world second to none if they decide to launch a airborne invasion we will see the results

And to be honest I have no idea what so ever where the freggin hell ISIS and this group came from I just switched on the TV and ISIS was all over the news I have never even heard of them until recently who they are what they are doing it's very strange

Christians and Yazidis in Iraq along with Jewish people have lived side by side for thousands of years I mean thousands of years Iraq was such a mix of peoples and religions as was Syria all gone in a heart beat 2003 invasion broke the bond of sectarian divide now we have so many factions it's ridiculous

It is claimed 1,000 Christian civilians have been killed by ISIS in the last few weeks alone

no one, nothing, is as evil as the IS at this stage. they must be wiped out.
 
Re: 2014 ISIS attack in Iraq: News, Views, Photos, Videos

Interesting article about various airforces attacking ISIS




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Doesnt matter who it is, I just hope everyone look past differences and get rid of this beast called the IS. It's a fangs-bearing monster that will become the true nightmare of humanity if not exterminated. A true international effort to destroy them should be warranted.
 
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So far the air strikes have been highly targeted and few in number. But the Kurds say they have already been enough to allow to take back 2-3 towns as a result.

The US is capable of deploying F-18s in all varieties, F-15Es, B-1Bs, B-2s, etc. to devastating effect. From Kuwait and Turkey, they could also easily deploy A-10s as needed, well within range to be effective.

How much will actually be done we will have to wait and see.

It is clear that the latest atrocities pushed Obama over the edge and he has decided to us American air power for a significant time frame to help reduce ISIS capability to continue their offensive which s resulting in horrific and bloody genocide in the areas they take control of.

This is truly a real war on terror.
 

Franklin

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So far the air strikes have been highly targeted and few in number. But the Kurds say they have already been enough to allow to take back 2-3 towns as a result.

The US is capable of deploying F-18s in all varieties, F-15Es, B-1Bs, B-2s, etc. to devastating effect. From Kuwait and Turkey, they could also easily deploy A-10s as needed, well within range to be effective.

How much will actually be done we will have to wait and see.

It is clear that the latest atrocities pushed Obama over the edge and he has decided to us American air power for a significant time frame to help reduce ISIS capability to continue their offensive which s resulting in horrific and bloody genocide in the areas they take control of.

I don't think it was the atrocities or the Yazidi's on that mountain that prompted the Americans to act. It was their march towards Kurdistan and its capital Erbil that was the reason for the current intervention. The Kurds in Iraq are being seen as a long time friend of the US and a strategic asset in the region dating back to 1991. And they have a very effective lobbying machine in DC. There is a CIA base in Erbil and maybe some elements of the JSOC are stationed there as well.

I think the current strategy against the ISIS may backfire. What the Americans are doing is using airstrikes to contain ISIS in Iraq and not to destroy them as that would require a much larger effort than the current one. These pinprick airstrikes from the Americans are a propoganda tool falling from heaven for them as they can claim that they are now locked into battle with the mighty US and are still standing. This will help their recruitment efforts. Every ISIS member that is killed by US airstrikes can potentially generate 3 or 4 new recruits for them. Just like in Afghanistan with the Taliban. What doesn't destroy them makes them stronger. An additional problem is that the Americans and her allies are still supporting sedition in Syria that is helping ISIS to expand their influence and territory in that country. While the US is bombing ISIS in Iraq they are helping them to expand in Syria.
 
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