Jura The idiot
General
you're a real Veteran, delft
it had happened coupla months before I was born:
ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)
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you're a real Veteran, delft
it had happened coupla months before I was born:
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I think at this moment in time, we just don't have enough information to form any sort of reasoned conclusion.
ISIS claiming responsibility by itself isn't enough to convince me, since they and their irk claim responsibly every single time an American or coalition aircraft goes down, and most of those times, it was latter discovered that those claims were bogus.
There are simply far too many possibilities.
If the plane suffered catastrophic mechanical failure and entered into an unrecoverable dive/stall, the G forces involved could have snapped the plane in mid air.
A bomb could have went off and caused the plane to break up before the pilots knew a bomb had gone off, in that instance, they would have just been going off of what their instruments told them, which could have resulted in the report of mechanical/technical issue instead of bomb blast.
A missile with proximity fuse could have peppered the underside of the plane with shrapnel. The pilots would have only felt the impacts and rocking, and with fault indicators lighting up, again, they could again have reported only mechanical/technical issues, and gone down before they knew what really happened.
The fact that a large part of the plane appears to have gone up in flames before or after crashing would undoubtedly complicate the process involved in determining exactly happened.
And those are just a few off the top of my head.
The best thing to do is wait for solid facts and not jump to conclusions.
ISIS claiming responsibility by itself isn't enough to convince me, since they and their irk claim responsibly every single time an American or coalition aircraft goes down, and most of those times, it was latter discovered that those claims were bogus.
There are simply far too many possibilities.
If the plane suffered catastrophic mechanical failure and entered into an unrecoverable dive/stall, the G forces involved could have snapped the plane in mid air.
A bomb could have went off and caused the plane to break up before the pilots knew a bomb had gone off, in that instance, they would have just been going off of what their instruments told them, which could have resulted in the report of mechanical/technical issue instead of bomb blast.
A missile with proximity fuse could have peppered the underside of the plane with shrapnel. The pilots would have only felt the impacts and rocking, and with fault indicators lighting up, again, they could again have reported only mechanical/technical issues, and gone down before they knew what really happened.
The fact that a large part of the plane appears to have gone up in flames before or after crashing would undoubtedly complicate the process involved in determining exactly happened.
And those are just a few off the top of my head.
The best thing to do is wait for solid facts and not jump to conclusions.
It is prudent for air passengers to remain strapped in their seat belts because of the dangers of clear air turbulence. Only take off the belt to go to the loo or when you are afraid that to remain seated invites trouble with your legs.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Probably not a great deal to be honest. As Delft already mentioned, its now standard practice for airlines to advise passengers to keep their seatbelts fastened at all times when they are seated.
In addition, since the plane went down after only 20 odd minutes, chances are most of the passengers would not have bothered to undo their seatbelts from take off yet.
If the passengers had been strapped into their seats and were wearing oxygen masks, that would have told us a great deal, but as it is, just being strapped into their seats doesn't really add anything new to help anyone figure out what happened to bring that plane down.
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Just heard on the news from the airline that the plane was in good mechanical and technical shape and the only thing that could bring it down was (external sources) for all that's worth this is contrary to other reports about the copilits complaining adout it to his wife I guess we will just have to wait and see
Jura The idiot
General
(to end/keep the siege of the Kuweiris airbase) seems to be still ongoing (SampanViking: isn't it too long?), while
probably hasn't succeeded, as
says
My Russian sources switched from so called piece talks to the downed airliner ... no map today
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