ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Miragedriver

Brigadier
It is even worse then that. ISIS fighters captured large group of refuges just meters from Turkish border . You could clearly see Turkish border guards on first picture

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Any reports on what happened to the woman and child in the fourth photograph? Hope they are alive.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Simon Mann: 'We can use mercenaries to defeat Isil'
The former SAS man who plotted the disastrous 'Wonga coup' says a private army could be used to defeat Islamic State

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It is late morning in a cafe in London’s Sloane Square, and over coffee and croissants,
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is sketching out a plot to topple the Islamic State. Perhaps not suprisingly for someone who spent five years in jail for his role in the botched “Wonga Coup”, he makes it clear that he has no immediate plans to do so. But if someone did ring up for his help - just as they did in Equatorial Guinea, and before that in Angola and Sierra Leone - here is how he’d go about it.

“If someone from the Iraqi government said ‘Okay Simon, we have got the money for you to put together a 2,000-strong force’, I would tell them ‘yes, we could probably do something useful’,” says the Eton-educated former Scots Guard and SAS man. “Isil are probably more terrifying than they are competent, and it all comes down to training and experience at the end of the day.

“We know that the Iraqi army were not being properly led, paid or equipped and that equates to disaster. How did anyone expect it to end?”

Many other military minds have been asking that very same question in recent weeks, as this month’s anniversary of Isil’s take-over of northern Iraq prompts bouts of gloomy soul-searching. On Monday,
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for training Iraqi forces to fight Isil, while last month, the former head of the British army,
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by sending in troops again.

Yet if there is one thing that the bickering generals and politicians could probably agree on, it is that whatever the solution, none of them will be asking Mann to provide it. This after all, is the fellow who ended up being sentenced to 34 years in Equatorial Guinea’s Black Beach prison, after his 2004 plot to overthrow the country’s dictator, Teodoro Obiang, was rumbled in advance.

As “banged up abroad” predicaments went, it made Midnight Express look like a holiday. And as his many critics were quick to point out, the plot he had tried to hatch seemed so improbable it sounded like a badly-written thriller. Not only had he enlisted as a financier, Lady Thatcher’s son Mark (who has always denied any knowledge of the plot and only admitted to breaking anti-mercenary legislation in South Africa by agreeing to charter a helicopter) - never the best option for keeping things low-profile - news of the plan had leaked out months before.

Mann pressed ahead, convinced he had the tacit backing of Western intelligence, only to be arrested with 69 others during a weapons pick-up in Zimbabwe, which then obligingly extradited him to face Obiang’s tender mercies in Equatorial Guinea. To the surprise of many,
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Yet despite his contribution to the mercenary trade’s long history of infamy - a subject on which he is now writing a book - the reason the coup backers came to Mann in the first place was because he had a very good record at what he did. His previous firm, Executive Outcomes, halted rebel movements in their tracks in both Angola in 1993 and Sierra Leone in 1995, the latter against the drug-crased, limb-chopping rebels of the Revolutionary United Front. On both occasions it was in support of legitimate governments, and while some may have questioned the millions they were paid, nobody ever doubted their effectiveness.

Indeed, in person, it is hard to recognise him as the forlorn figure that he cut at his trial, sitting handcuffed in a courtroom in Equatorial Guinea’s sweltering capital, Malabo. The scraggy beard is gone, and in place of the prison fatigues is a smart pinstripe suit that is more City banker than soldier of fortune. He comes across as charming and thoughtful, and while he still works as a security consultant, much of his time since his release has focused on writing and promoting his memoir, Cry Havoc.

Yet earlier this year, one of his old South African partners,
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, this time fielding a force of fighters to help Nigeria defeat the Islamists of Boko Haram. As the Telegraph reported last month, the group spent three months fighting alongside the Nigerian military, bringing with them years of hard-won experience in South Africa’s apartheid-era bush wars. They had only around 100 men on the ground, but even in that brief time, they turned a demoralised and badly-led army into a fighting machine that finally pushed Boko Haram from its north-eastern strongholds.

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I don't know about mercs(mercenaries), I just don't trust these guys. Remember the costs of private security companies like Black Water debacle back several years ago over in Iraq and Afghanistan? These guys may be good but when the money runs out they will leave out as well.
 

Miragedriver

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A Syrian refugee woman carries her belongings as she crosses into Turkey at the Akcakale border gate in Sanliurfa province, Turkey. On Sunday, Turkish authorities reopened the border after a few days of closure, a security source said, adding that they expected as many as 10,000 people to come across.
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Miragedriver

Brigadier
I don't know about mercs(mercenaries), I just don't trust these guys. Remember the costs of private security companies like Black Water debacle back several years ago over in Iraq and Afghanistan? These guys may be good but when the money runs out they will leave out as well.

Agreed! in certain parts of the world the term mercenaries also means someone that works for money as their only driving purpose.


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Miragedriver

Brigadier
Syrian Army, Hezbollah on a Roll Pushing ISIL, al-Nusra From Qalamoun

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The Syrian Army assisted by Hezbollah fighters cleared two key hilltops on the border between Syria and Lebanon as part of a major campaign to rid the 60-mile area of Qalamoun of extremists, FNA reported.

One of the hilltops, known as Jreijeer, served as the local Islamic State stronghold, while the other one, Shamisa al-Hosan, linked Jreijeer to the al-Flita hilltop.

Qalamoun has seen fierce fighting between the government forces and the fighters from the Lebanon-based Shiite movement on one side and Sunni militants, fighting to dislodge Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, on the other.

Al-Nusra, an offshoot of al-Qaeda in Syria, as Islamic State need control over the area to secure routes into Lebanon they could then use to restore supplies, including weapons and fighters, or infiltrate the country.


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solarz

Brigadier
I don't know about mercs(mercenaries), I just don't trust these guys. Remember the costs of private security companies like Black Water debacle back several years ago over in Iraq and Afghanistan? These guys may be good but when the money runs out they will leave out as well.

Yup, the problem with mercenaries is that ISIS is not just something you can defeat in a single campaign and be done with it. If it was that easy, the US would have done so already.

The reason the US doesn't want to send in ground troops is that they know it will just lead to another quagmire and years of police action. You can defeat ISIS in battle, but the moment you leave, ISIS 2.0 will spring up.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I don't know about mercs(mercenaries), I just don't trust these guys. Remember the costs of private security companies like Black Water debacle back several years ago over in Iraq and Afghanistan? These guys may be good but when the money runs out they will leave out as well.

Agreed! Those Blackwater guys were hated by the military which is ironic because most of them are ex military themselves.
I can see mercs being used but not in that fashion. As long as a private company is footing the bill sure why not but mercs sponsored by state entities is probably a bad idea.
Maybe the French Foreign Legionaires can do it. I have a good deal of respect for those guys.
 
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