Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

zgx09t said:

Not that I enjoy the conversation with you, but equal number of the words freedom and slave were used in my post as the issue of freedom was brought in, for which you chimed in with our own slant.

What's with your mix of quotes, links, pictures and texts?
Just my own personal opinion, that's so telling of autism. Just being honest.

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watch your tone

Back to topic. Huawei announced its first 5g phone today, to be available for purchase sometime midyear. The peak 5G performance is advertised at 4.6 Gbps sub 6GHz. To put in perspective, the advanced LTE with 256QAM (4G) is capable of 2.5 Gbps.

Will be interesting to see how the modem compares against Qualcomm's X55, which has an advertised top speed of 7Gbps and will show up in new phones this year.

This year 5G will remain a marketing gimmick with phone manufacturers desperate to innovate even if observable improvements are marginal. Early indicators are that 5G is both more expensive and more power hungry. But the same story applied to first generations of 4G.

Max Demian said:

Back to topic. Huawei announced its first 5g phone today, to be available for purchase sometime midyear. The peak 5G performance is advertised at 4.6 Gbps sub 6GHz. To put in perspective, the advanced LTE with 256QAM (4G) is capable of 2.5 Gbps.

Will be interesting to see how the modem compares against Qualcomm's X55, which has an advertised top speed of 7Gbps.

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It's interesting to watch the competition between Huawei and Samsung, and that between Huawei and Qualcomm, in different fronts. They will benefit consumers.

Huawei's Balong 5000 beat Qualcomm's X50, Qualcomm's first 5G chip, but the just-released-out X55 catches up and reclaims the lead over Huawei chip.

We are in a thread about the hypocrisy of banning Huawei on unsubstantiated and devious grounds. Biggest Hypocrisy is those who under the BANNER of "freedom" defend the denial of freedom for Huawei's right to compete in a free market . Strawman's argument are without substance and lacking in moral integrity,

Jura said:

watch your tone

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Deeply sympathetic, but only probiotic and prebiotic can help you out here.

Max Demian said:

I've been to ROC for a couple of weeks. Great people, very hard working. Come to think of it, it's about time I plan a vacation to the mainland.

Although, to get a proper perspective one would need to stay there for work and get immersed in the culture. In the meantime, I occasionally follow YouTube channels of westerners living in PRC.

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Yes it's good to visit and soak in the culture. This is how we learn and grow.
I would add though thst ROC is not quite the same, similar but not the same as PRC.
My nephew's been to both and absolutely loved both.
So take a trip to the PRC if ans when you get a chance.
Good luck

zgx09t said:

Not that I enjoy the conversation with you, but equal number of the words freedom and slave were used in my post as the issue of freedom was brought in, for which you chimed in with our own slant.

What's with your mix of quotes, links, pictures and texts?
Just my own personal opinion, that's so telling of autism. Just being honest.

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Couldn't agree more.
It's difficult to discuss anything if all you got is one liners and quotes

Dolcevita said:

We are in a thread about the hypocrisy of banning Huawei on unsubstantiated and devious grounds. Biggest Hypocrisy is those who under the BANNER of "freedom" defend the denial of freedom for Huawei's right to compete in a free market . Strawman's argument are without substance and lacking in moral integrity,

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This is exactly correct.
The thread is about huawai being denied the freedom to operate in international space.
This is because not only is the US seek to ban huawai on thumped up security ground. It activily seeking other nations to do likewise.
On top of this, and let's not forget. It arrested a foreign national on the ground that the company she worked for broke US law! If foreigners are arrestable for they companies action against US domestic law.
Then why isn't VW CEO get arrested for breaking and hiding the emission law!

Max Demian said:

Back to topic. Huawei announced its first 5g phone today, to be available for purchase sometime midyear. The peak 5G performance is advertised at 4.6 Gbps sub 6GHz. To put in perspective, the advanced LTE with 256QAM (4G) is capable of 2.5 Gbps.

Will be interesting to see how the modem compares against Qualcomm's X55, which has an advertised top speed of 7Gbps and will show up in new phones this year.

This year 5G will remain a marketing gimmick with phone manufacturers desperate to innovate even if observable improvements are marginal. Early indicators are that 5G is both more expensive and more power hungry. But the same story applied to first generations of 4G.

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I believe both Huawei and Qualcomm's advertisement are truth unless they want to suffer the same credit scandal as ATT's fake 5G. So in this regards, Qualcomm is more advanced than Huawei in the speed race of the modem and modem chip only.

But chip alone does not give the end user the advertised 7Gbps, not even the new phones equipped with it, they need the base station and switches. That is out of control of Qualcomm, but in the hands of system venders like Huawei, Ericsson Nokia and Samsung, and we know that Huawei has the lead in this arena.

We also know that the initial trial network in US is on the high band which is designed for maximum speed, while trial networks in other Europe and China start on the mid and low band (existing 4G frequencies). This gives Huawei no chance to beat Qualcomm even if it wanted to challenge because Huawei is banned by US government in that competition.

In the end, at this early stage, comparing top speed becomes meaningless as
1. There is no fair play ground for Huawei.
2. Qualcomm relies on Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung to demonstrate its capability.

Gatekeeper said:

This is exactly correct.
On top of this, and let's not forget. It arrested a foreign national on the ground that the company she worked for broke US law! If foreigners are arrestable for they companies action against US domestic law.
Then why isn't VW CEO get arrested for breaking and hiding the emission law!

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He is considered a fugitive hiding in Germany. However Germany does not extradite its citizens to the US. Yet you don't see the US throw tantrums and arrest German citizens on spurious charges in retaliation.

I understand CCP needed to save face back home, but that kind of posturing damaged Huawei's case.