Is it better to walk on by?

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solarz

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I'm not surprised. Chinese education policy is still reluctant to fully discuss the damage the CCP did to China in the past. It's not the whitewash it used to be, but its enough that such people ignore what the Red Guards did and how those that didn't conform or were "different" were treated.

As I said, if you want to look at who did what to Chinese culture, the CCP made far more sustained and effective attacks on traditional ways and attitudes. Some of those policies had positive results, others were destructive.

If we're talking about the issue at hand, namely helping complete strangers in need, the Cultural Revolution era was far better in this aspect than the current Chinese society.


What does that have to do with my showing that the "I thought I might get scammed if I stopped to help" defence is bogus?

Because nothing in the real world has only one cause.

Nobody helped the little girl because some people thought it was a scam, others thought other people would help, and still others thought it *might* be a scam, but even if it wasn't, there will be other people who would help, so it's better to just walk on by.

As for your assumption:
If you can get a very small child to lie in the road motionless for any length of time, you've either an incredible parent or very lucky to have such an obedient sprog. Most kids would get bored after a short while and start moving around.

You're making that judgment based on your experience with children from relatively well-off families. If you ever traveled to China, you will see that there are plenty of children who have been trained to run all kinds of scams.
 

Engineer

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The worst criticism of what happened is coming from Chinese netizens. This is a bigger story in China than elsewhere.
And it is precisely this why you get to hear about it. But like I have said, China-hating warriors on the Internet would rather criticize the whole of China and take cheap shots at CCP, which is ironic considering these people are taking advantage of the child's misfortune.

Yes, I have read that, and no it isn't a proof that the statement is bogus. People who have relatives in China, and people who have first-hand experience in China told you that there is a genuine fear of getting scammed, which you disputed as bogus. So once again, where is your evidence?

What your opinion proves are that hindsight is 20/20, that making criticism is always easy, and that people always view themselves in rose-tinted glasses. But when people are caught up in such a situation, they are always apathetic; and yes, this applies when the victims in question are
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I can't give you a health and safety report compiled by the International Committee of Truth on All Matters, but if you've been involved in or witnessed a severe accident where on first inspection you had no way of telling if it was real of not, feel free to share your experiences.

And if you still refuse to accept I might have a point, feel free to explain why a fear of being scammed stops you calling the emergency services.

I wouldn't be too hard on people living in southern China. It's a diverse region, and it's not like this girl was hit outside an expensive store or in suburbia.

Nice try spinning it around, but no one here owes any explanation to you since many people here, including I, have already explained to you that this is bystander effect at work. Examples that have been posted already are
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. It is you who are refusing to accept that what happened is a well documented phenomenon and is not unique in China.
 

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