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Gloire_bb

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Plan was regime change and disable nuclear infrastructure. Both failed. Don't tell me the plan was just disable IADS (even that is not proven as ground footage showed Israel struck mostly decoys) and leave because that is totally nonsensical.
I frankly don't know what Israel endgame was(arguably Israel itself didn't), their first goal was neutralization of Iranian defensive and nuclear assets. Both succeeded, with exception of targets Israel couldn't touch beforehand, and could only draw in Americans. Which it did. Everything else, IMHO, came as a improvisation, when Israel didn't expecte anything near the success it got, and started making not well informed decisions in uncharted grounds.

Given that Iranian AD managed to hit exactly zero jets, including ancient 1980s jets, doing direct overflights over Tehran (and, perhaps less humiliating but more consequential - TEL hunting), I wonder if Iran even had anything other than decoys per your assessment.
Whole point of IRGC AD system - a massive investment over last two decades, which made Iran probably the only islamic power actually producing such means themselves, - was to prevent just that. This isn't a very high bar, btw - Houthis managed to do it v US.
If you don't even know what it was degraded into then this is a totally moot point to argue.
Into begging same nuclear control that passed targets to Israel to return just to delay sanctions, and not even getting that?
That's one hell of a victory. Tired of winning, aren't you?

Iran now is in a magnificent position of trying to outproduce US(lol) through MRBMs(which was NOT the plan!), using damaged facilities, to establish at least it's D+1 deterrence position (which already failed them).
Their only chance to return to +0 - which also failed them, but perhaps this is redeemable, - is several years of uninterrupted SAM production, i.e. lots of high tech supply chains just begging to be... interrupted.
Yes, starting next year, Su-35s will come - but with ravaged stealth detection network, until it's restored and again supplied with enough replacement stations to make up for losses, they are highly vulnerable targets themselves.
Flanker-E is outstanding stealth counter only in designed conditions. Otherwise, it isn't even best flanker for the job on its own. Should've bought Felons.
 
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gelgoog

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Given that Iranian AD managed to hit exactly zero jets, including ancient 1980s jets, doing direct overflights over Tehran (and, perhaps less humiliating but more consequential - TEL hunting), I wonder if Iran even had anything other than decoys per your assessment.
There is zero evidence of that having happened. At best Israel opened up some air corridors in the middle of nowhere and lobbed standoff munitions at cities. The only overflights were made by drones. Some of which were shot down by Iran.

Whole point of IRGC AD system - a massive investment over last two decades, which made Iran probably the only islamic power actually producing such means themselves, - was to prevent just that. This isn't a very high bar, btw - Houthis managed to do it v US.
The Houthis don't use cellphones and Western social media. The fact Iran has wide open international network access like this is retarded. They should know better.
People use WhatsApp in Iran for chrissakes. An application made by a Jewish Ukrainian in the US. Owned by Meta i.e. Facebook.
Even if the top leaders don't use such services, if their family members do and live in the same house as them, what do you think will happen? What did happen.

Into begging same nuclear control that passed targets to Israel to return just to delay sanctions, and not even getting that?
That's one hell of a victory. Tired of winning, aren't you?
Iran only had as an objective to stop Israeli and US attacks. Which they did.

Iran now is in a magnificent position of trying to outproduce US(lol) through MRBMs(which was NOT the plan!), using damaged facilities, to establish at least it's D+1 deterrence position (which already failed them).
The US can't produce jack shit in case you did not notice yet. Well, maybe aircraft. But certainly not missiles or drones.

Their only chance to return to +0 - which also failed them, but perhaps this is redeemable, - is several years of uninterrupted SAM production, i.e. lots of high tech supply chains just begging to be... interrupted.
In case you did not notice Iran and Belarus use the same SAMs. They can just buy missiles from them. As for the liquid MRBMs they can be imported from North Korea.

Yes, starting next year, Su-35s will come - but with ravaged stealth detection network, until it's restored and again supplied with enough replacement stations to make up for losses, they are highly vulnerable targets themselves.
The Iranian long wave radar stations are made of pre-fabricated modules. I would not be surprised if they were operational again already.

Flanker-E is outstanding stealth counter only in designed conditions. Otherwise, it isn't even best flanker for the job on its own. Should've bought Felons.
I also think the same but the order was probably made a long time ago.
 
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