Iranian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

2handedswordsman

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Come on, look at what happens in the region. It's crystal clear who's won and who's lost. Just from consequences and follow up.

It's also absolutely clear who didn't lose in the resistance axis. It's Houthis, who continue to do whatever they want.
Who is winning? Certainly not the murderers, the internationally wanted war criminals, nor the circus of pedophiles that surrounds them. What has the resistance achieved? The State of Palestine has finally been recognized by almost the entire world, opening people’s eyes globally to the role played by imperialist entities, since nothing can be hidden anymore because of the internet. The Hamas militia has managed for the past two years to resist and strike the IDF daily, while Iran has been relentlessly slapping the Zionist entity for 12 days, successfully hitting strategic targets with every volley of missiles.


Also, if you noticed, as soon as the snapback sanctions mechanism was applied on Iran, China and Russia officially declared that they would not recognize it and would continue their economic relations with Iran as normal. In general, there is a tendency within the UN to question the U.S. veto, even moving toward the possibility of expelling them from the UN for abusing institutions for their own benefit. This, you see, is a “precedent.” Greed and the thirst for money and power have simply accelerated the processes of expansion and further consolidation of the resistance.


What exactly do you consider a victory from the other side? International condemnation, atrocities against civilians and children, and that Assad has fallen? Western governments, especially on the Palestinian issue, are facing massive demonstrations, from rallies and marches of thousands of people, to sabotage and other activist actions. The West is a boiling cauldron, barely held down through the police state. Trump is deploying state troopers in cities to suppress his own people’s reactions to the chaos they are living in, a chaos that shows no way out.


That’s it in brief.
 
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Gloire_bb

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What has the resistance achieved? The State of Palestine has finally been recognized by almost the entire world, opening people’s eyes globally to the role played by imperialist entities, since nothing can be hidden anymore because of the internet
Oh, they'll die recognized. That's really what starving people under siege need - retweets and recognitions.
The Hamas militia has managed for the past two years to resist and strike the IDF daily, while Iran has been relentlessly slapping the Zionist entity for 12 days, successfully hitting strategic targets with every volley of missiles.
And now victorious Iran seats in silence, somehow letting spoils of its victory escape. And "humiliated" Israel bombs whomever it wants in the region, with only Houthis daring to reply.
 

oldtowncrab

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The biggest issue with any Chinese weapon sales to Iran is that the countries military secrets leak like a sieve to Israeli intelligence.

Any military equipment given by China to the Iranians is liable to get it's secrets stolen by the Israelis and handed to the US. If that's the case what's the point of giving anything to the Iranians in the first place. (It also doesn't help that there remains a non zero chance the Iranians just give away the equipment anyways as a bargaining chip with the US)
 

sheogorath

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The biggest issue with any Chinese weapon sales to Iran is that the countries military secrets leak like a sieve to Israeli intelligence.

Any military equipment given by China to the Iranians is liable to get it's secrets stolen by the Israelis and handed to the US. If that's the case what's the point of giving anything to the Iranians in the first place. (It also doesn't help that there remains a non zero chance the Iranians just give away the equipment anyways as a bargaining chip with the US)

You say that if Pakistan hasn't been a CIA base for decades, though.
 

Puss in Boots

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You say that if Pakistan hasn't been a CIA base for decades, though.
Pakistan lacks Iran's ambitions, and it's unlikely to completely betray China, which is why Pakistan is more trustworthy.
Iran harbors dreams of a Persian Empire and still believes it can dominate the region. Therefore, Iran is not a trustworthy country to China, the US, or Russia.
China doesn't mind Iran's superpower aspirations, but its balancing diplomacy, like India's, is highly regarded. In some respects, Iran is even less resolute than North Korea.
The Chinese view Iran's hesitancy to develop nuclear weapons and its attempts to use them as a bargaining chip to secure sanctions relief as clownish behavior. While the nuclear weapons haven't been acquired, the economic sanctions remain intact.
If Iran can use its nuclear development as a bargaining chip, I can't think of anything else it won't trade. So Iran shouldn't blame China and Russia for their distrust of it.
 

sheogorath

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Pakistan lacks Iran's ambitions, and it's unlikely to completely betray China, which is why Pakistan is more trustworthy.
And what exactly are Iran ambitions beyond keeping Israel at bay and contained(if not outright destroyed)?. Keeping in mind that Iran gets accused of a lot of BS that just western projection, as per usual.
Also Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have an agreement that includes the usage of nuclear weapons, and Saudi Arabia is not exactly a reliable partner either.

Iran harbors dreams of a Persian Empire and still believes it can dominate the region
Do they?. Have they stated this anywhere?. Or is it a case of projection just like the West keeps stating that Russia wants to rebuild the USSR and conquer all of Eastern Europe?

I mean, Iran has reasons to have worries about their neighbors getting fully under control of others, considering the west tried to pull things like Operation Eagle Claw or sticking Iraq on them a year later.

China doesn't mind Iran's superpower aspirations,
But they don't have superpower aspirations, though?. A regional power and superpower are two different things.

In some respects, Iran is even less resolute than North Korea.
True though that has more to do with Iran buying far more into westernization than North Korea did and for all the whinning about theocratic rule, there is plenty of reformist liberals in the government who think living peacefully with the West is possible, for better or for worse.

North Korea doesn't live under that delusion because they have internalized that humilliating the West is an unforgivable sin, no matter how much you bend over for them later. A lesson both forgotten in Russia and China, as well.

The Chinese view Iran's hesitancy to develop nuclear weapons and its attempts to use them as a bargaining chip to secure sanctions relief as clownish behavior
On that we agree. But it also contradicts the claims about them wanting to be some sort of superpower, does it not?. How exactly would anyone want to build an empire without the ultimate "I'm going to fuck you up" card exactly?.

Even Europe does their empire larping has-been-ism relying on the nuclear umbrella of the US, UK and France.

On the other hand, there has been speculation that China has conditioned help to Iran on not building nuclear weapons, which if true...

If Iran can use its nuclear development as a bargaining chip, I can't think of anything else it won't trade.
Thats reaching and a jump in logic as you assume their usage of nuclear weapons as negotiation piece as oportunism of some sort not a cultural issue unrelated to everything else
 

Puss in Boots

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Thats reaching and a jump in logic as you assume their usage of nuclear weapons as negotiation piece as oportunism of some sort not a cultural issue unrelated to everything else
China's official position is to support the principle of nuclear non-proliferation, but this doesn't mean Iran can't pursue its own nuclear weapons development. If you understand what I'm saying, then my logic is perfectly sound.
A regional power pursuing independence and sovereignty cannot fear international sanctions. If you don't even have the courage to resist international sanctions, then you don't deserve to be a regional power. India also experienced trade sanctions for a period of time in its pursuit of nuclear weapons. I have to say that India has made considerable sacrifices to achieve partial independence and sovereignty. Iran clearly lacks this awareness.
Iran's dream isn't limited to destroying Israel. We must acknowledge that all countries have dreams, even ambitions. No one says they don't want to be a superpower; most simply don't express them due to practical difficulties.
"If you're not at the table, you're on the menu." A country can either become a dominant force in the region or become a buffer zone for others. This is the reality of geopolitics. Iran's geographical location dictates that it either strives to survive and become a regional power, or become a complete colony of the United States. Clearly, Iran does not want the latter.
North Korea harbors no illusions about the West, while Iran does. This is Iran's current predicament.
 

_killuminati_

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And what exactly are Iran ambitions beyond keeping Israel at bay and contained(if not outright destroyed)?. Keeping in mind that Iran gets accused of a lot of BS that just western projection, as per usual.
I'm pretty sure Iran doesn't trust Russia given it hasn't even been a hundred years yet since Russia, along with Britain, invaded and occupied Iran (1941-1946) without any proper casus belli. Iran at the time was a totally neutral country that got wrecked by European imperial powers. And a bit earlier, the Soviet Russians conquered and annexed a large de jure Persian territory (now, Caucasus and CAS countries). Much of the political leadership issues that are present today have their roots in that occupation. They're like Turkey today - trapped on all sides by untrustworthy powers - but in a worse position.
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