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Videos/ pictures from the Iranian drone.

Interesting.

So this shows video footage taken by an Iranian drone at the time that the (electronic) shoot-down was claimed and said drone continued to return home safely. It is also taken very close to the ships, so it is unlikely that the ships would bring down another drone 900 meters away but leave this one alone (since it looks like it is nearly above the ships). To be fair, the video suggests against, but does not exclude the possibility that another Iranian drone was brought down at the time. However, to be totally fair, the US has provided nothing as evidence on its part. No wreckage, no video, no picture, no nothing.
 

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thanks for sharing the news

LOL the source is not exactly my favorite, but she indeed appears to be missing:
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TerraN_EmpirE

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So this shows video footage taken by an Iranian drone at the time that the (electronic) shoot-down was claimed and said drone continued to return home safely. It is also taken very close to the ships, so it is unlikely that the ships would bring down another drone 900 meters away but leave this one alone (since it looks like it is nearly above the ships). To be fair, the video suggests against, but does not exclude the possibility that another Iranian drone was brought down at the time. However, to be totally fair, the US has provided nothing as evidence on its part. No wreckage, no video, no picture, no nothing.
If it is from this incident... oh wait it’s Iran they can’t be wrong or trying to mislead.... that’s the US... why even if the US produced wreckage it must be fake... :rolleyes:
 

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If it is from this incident... oh wait it’s Iran they can’t be wrong or trying to mislead.... that’s the US... why even if the US produced wreckage it must be fake... :rolleyes:

The credibility argument doesn't work here. Trump has said more things that are easily proven false in single televised sittings than Iran in a decade. If anything, the US is at a disadvantage if working just from credibility.

Have you actually shown any wreckage? Because this seems like you are putting words into other people's mouths to justify your own lack of evidence. For example, "Even if I showed you evidence, you wouldn't believe me so I'm not going to bother." In actuality, we're all ears and you're all out.
 

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Tyrant King
The credibility argument doesn't work here. Trump has said more things that are easily proven false in single televised sittings than Iran in a decade. If anything, the US is at a disadvantage if working just from credibility.

Have you actually shown any wreckage? Because this seems like you are putting words into other people's mouths to justify your own lack of evidence. For example, "Even if I showed you evidence, you wouldn't believe me so I'm not going to bother." In actuality, we're all ears and you're all out.
Have you seen the video?
It shows footage of the ships but not a flight home or landing. Both the US and Iran claim the drone was there. The question is how it ends.
Iran says “Trust us it is back home” they also said “Trust is we have fifth gen stealth fighter”.
Remember that?
How about Trust us we have new blank and blank.... Trust us we don’t want nukes... Trust us this plane load of cash isn’t going to be used to attack the west...

If you want to question the US fine but The IROI is hardly trustworthy either.
 

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Have you seen the video?
It shows footage of the ships but not a flight home or landing. Both the US and Iran claim the drone was there. The question is how it ends.
Iran says “Trust us it is back home” they also said “Trust is we have fifth gen stealth fighter”.
Remember that?
How about Trust us we have new blank and blank.... Trust us we don’t want nukes... Trust us this plane load of cash isn’t going to be used to attack the west...

If you want to question the US fine but The IROI is hardly trustworthy either.

Have you seen the video? It is time-stamped and showed the drone almost flying above the ships. So basically, we know that during the time of the alleged downing, this drone was much closer and safe. Does it make sense that the ship would target another one 900 meters away and leave this one alone? Not so much to me. Another point is that when Iran used electronic interference to bring down the American drone in the Beast of Kandahar incident, it landed and Iran had the drone. The US hacked down a much cheaper Iranian drone and has nothing to show for it, no wreckage, video, or picture? Possible, but not probable. In any case I had already pointed out that the video does not prove anything, only suggests it. But that it's still a whole lot better than what America has provided.

As for the "trust us" parts, I have no idea what you're talking about. Iran claimed it was working on a stealth fighter, not that it had been completed or was working. I don't know what plane-load of cash you're talking about or how it was determined what it was used for. And the nuke claim went out the window when Trump threw the deal out the window, not to mention that someone may not want a weapon until you surround them and threaten them. That just makes them want weapons really badly. So basically, very vague claims; I see no lies. Here are some very famous Trump lies that easily lead me to conclude that Iran is far more trustworthy than Trump:

1. "I had the largest election victory in history." Reporter says Obama had more votes. Trump says he's talking about republican only. Reporter says Bush, Reagan, etc... all had more votes. Trump says he was told that and just went with it.

2. I had the largest attendance in history at my inauguration.

3. I reduced China's GDP by 150%.

4. The moon is a part of mars.

5. The UK is our largest trading partner.

6. Homelessness is a phenomenon that started 2 years ago.

There is obvious not enough bandwidth on this forum to complete this list. Iran is far more trustworthy than this American administration.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I saw the video,
It was time stamped but saying that prevents this event from happening because of that is weak. The times were approximates and the clock in the Iranian drone isn’t going to nessisarily match those of the Boxer or told to others.
Because of when the video ends we don’t know if it was that drone or some other drone and we also don’t know if this drone came back. It’s easy to post footage from the returning video stream and then say “ oh It landed”

Second look back again at the RQ170 that was recovered that drone was damaged not pristine. Heck the Iranians had to try and fill in the gap from when the right wing broke off.
Different drones will react differently to loosing command signals. Some will try to land some will stabilize and try to reestablish contact and some fall from the sky like a rock.

Now you are giving them to much credit. They said they had one Q313 then back tracked after the world called it a farce. They even posted PS of it supposedly in flight and models buzzing about as supposed flights. There officers and officials used the past tense to indicate it was built, ready for tests then a few years late they ran “Taxi rolls” and again they were called out.
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, Cash in the age of instant wire transfers and internet based banking. Who takes cash? Only those up to no good take cash in such huge amounts.

I am well aware of you dislike of President Trump, he is crass, boisterous and crude. He flubs and makes mistakes but at the same time many use any gah of his has talking points which by the way are your points #4 #5 and #6 not lies mistakes and errors.
 
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