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plawolf said:

Please someone explain to me which ‘international law’ allows navies to intercept foreign ships in international waters for allegedly breaching non-UN sanctions?

If China or Russia announced unilateral sanctions on say Japan, does anyone here think the west would just say ‘fair enough’ for Chinese and Russian warships to intercept commercial shipping in international waters heading to or from Japan?

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Come on, don't be naive. Everybody knows that might makes right to the likes of the US and Britain. They don't want Iran/Syria getting things done so they'll just do everything they can to prevent it. There's no such thing as law or decency to them. That's why the US is so desperate to sabotage the rise of Chinese power. China's far out of Britain's league to bully but the US still dreams of a weakened China that must play by American rules or have no recourse to defend itself from the repercussions. Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, all they did wrong was be too weak to defend their interests against bullying. We just need to make sure China is at the opposite end of the power spectrum.

Because Gibraltar is 12 km wide, the strait of Hormuz is 50 km wide.

Means there is a narrow international waters in Hormuz, but that doesn't exist in Gibraltar.

The shipping lanes are on Oman territorial waters in Hormuz, I presume the water is deep enough there.

So, in the case of Hormuz a ship / aircraft in innocent passage doesn't have to intrude into Iranian territorial waters , at least not there where the drone was shoot down.

But in the case of Gibraltar all ship / aircraft can use the innocent passage rule.




In the case of Gibraltar there is no need to enter UK waters to pass thought - the UK using the old 3 miles rule .

Iran is the last domino in the region to fall for total US control of oil. Very difficult decision.

Spain ought to make sure that they demand Britain expulsion out of Gibraltar before they exit from the European Union. That territory belongs to Spain, not Britain and we are no longer living in the colonial era anymore.

Regarding of drone downing:


Saying

Among the U.S.' designated targets was the S-125 Neva/Pechora surface-to-air missile system, a Soviet system known to the NATO Western military alliance as SA-3 Goa, a Pentagon official told Newsweek. This weapon was believed by the U.S. military to have been used by Iran's Revolutionary Guards in Thursday's downing of a Navy RQ-4A Global Hawk drone, though the elite Iranian force

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the domestically produced 3rd Khordad transporter erector launcher and radar, a variant of the locally-made Raad surface-to-air missile system.

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Interestingly no source mention S-125 systems in Iran's hand.
And that system would have difficulty to target the drone from that distance .

The sources now saying the RQ-4A was at 18km altitude .

If really an Iranian home made system was used to down the drone then there is the reason why the USA cancelled the airstrike.

Interestingly, there is no sign from third part of a SAM site in the position mentioned by the Newsweek.

The only missile that could hit a drone there is an S-200 site, but even that has to hit the drone on the edge of its envelope.






Actually, the USA picture of the explosion ( I presume recorded from the P-8 ) showing a jet of debris coming from the direction claimed by Iran.


The missile has to came from east, that is in line with the Iranians claim - if the USA claim is right then the missiles should came from North, the right side of picture.

Equation said:

Come on, don't be naive. Everybody knows that might makes right to the likes of the US and Britain. They don't want Iran/Syria getting things done so they'll just do everything they can to prevent it. There's no such thing as law or decency to them. That's why the US is so desperate to sabotage the rise of Chinese power. China's far out of Britain's league to bully but the US still dreams of a weakened China that must play by American rules or have no recourse to defend itself from the repercussions. Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, all they did wrong was be too weak to defend their interests against bullying. We just need to make sure China is at the opposite end of the power spectrum.

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I think Plawolf's "IF" was not a suggestion of China or Russia doing the same, but rather to make clear the illegality of "seizure of Iranian tanker", and also present the "double standard" nature of the west.

Yesterday at 9:26 AM

Jura said:

cross-posting from the UK Thread:

now
Royal Navy Frigate Escorts U.K. Tanker Out Of The Persian Gulf After Iranian Threats

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by the way Jun 19, 2019

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Iranian boats attempted to seize British tanker

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All the UK did was arrest a few Indians on the ship, now released them, and preparing to release the ship in a face-saving way.

Dizasta1 said:

Spain ought to make sure that they demand Britain expulsion out of Gibraltar before they exit from the European Union. That territory belongs to Spain, not Britain and we are no longer living in the colonial era anymore.

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Right after Spain gives up Mellila and Cuetta