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Mmmeeeto

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A more realistic post, with less distortion and word play. From Middle East Spectator

— // NEW: Conservative Iranian MP & Member of the National Security Comittee, Abolfazl Zohrevand, claims Iran has received a new batch of MiG-29 fighter jets from Russia as a 'short term solution'

He adds that for medium to long-term solutions, Iran is still in the process of taking delivery of Su-35 fighter jets from Russia, and that Iran is actively persuing other Russian systems including S-400 air defenses as well as Su-30s and MiG-35s.

He also said Iran is seriously considering acquiring HQ-9 air defense systems from China.

Zohrevand is generally very reliable when it comes to this sort of information, contrary to the statements of some other MPs.

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Zohrevand also claimed that khoramshahr-5 had a range of 10000 km, so he's not 100% credible
 
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Minm

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A more realistic post, with less distortion and word play. From Middle East Spectator



Zohrevand also claimed that khoramshahr-5 had a range of 10000 km, so he's not 100% credible
Why is that not credible? Even official media are calling it an ICBM

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Iran has the ability to launch satellites, there's no reason to think that you can't repurpose the space launch vehicle for military purposes. North Korea launched its first satellite in 2012 and had an ICBM in 2017. Iran launched its first satellite in 2009. They could have built an ICBM earlier but it makes more sense now after the jcpoa is over
 

Mmmeeeto

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Continuation to my last post

Further proof?

NEW:
MP Zohrevand was given an official warning by the Judiciary and Disciplinary Committee of Parliament and was basically told to stop yapping so much

(so it may be considered an opsec breach)

They told him to pay closer attention to 'national security' when disseminating sensitive information.

Whether that confirms the information he said about the MiG-29s or not, judge for yourself.

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yugocrosrb95

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Why is that not credible? Even official media are calling it an ICBM

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Iran has the ability to launch satellites, there's no reason to think that you can't repurpose the space launch vehicle for military purposes. North Korea launched its first satellite in 2012 and had an ICBM in 2017. Iran launched its first satellite in 2009. They could have built an ICBM earlier but it makes more sense now after the jcpoa is over
Except ICBM's that North Korea tested in 2017 were widely different than their SLV at the time as latter is Unha the ancestor of Simorgh.
Though Iran has shown recently seemingly equivalent to RD-250 and perhaps near identical to North Korean March 18 Revolution engine.
Which has single turbopump and feeds two nozzles that can swivel/gimbal unlike RD-250 hence allows steering without using verniers.
Hwasong-15 has capacity to insert comparable payload into orbit as Unha/Simorgh while 10 tons lighter with two stages and not three.
Though most viable ICBM's will always be solid fuel due to far quicker reaction time because it is basically ready like a firearm.
 

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I red on mews articles that Iran was still thinking of switching from using GPS to beidou after the war with Israel and the disruptions they faced. This shocked me. I never knew Iran was relying on GPS for such things much less for their military..shows you how incompetent the mullah regime have been. Lol I dont really know what they are thinking to be honest.
 

yugocrosrb95

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I red on mews articles that Iran was still thinking of switching from using GPS to beidou after the war with Israel and the disruptions they faced. This shocked me. I never knew Iran was relying on GPS for such things much less for their military..shows you how incompetent the mullah regime have been. Lol I dont really know what they are thinking to be honest.
GPS is effectively passive, satellites are active signaling where they are, whatever vehicle or missile just needs to calculate GNSS positions.

It is triangulation basically, just at much larger distances and global.

I am a layman, but to me seems it is whatever which you use, only difference is who has control to desync or shut off satellites of GNSS.

Beidou makes sense if US and Israel get desperate they can not resort to shutdown unless they want to provoke and start war with China.

Though one could have receivers of GPS, GLONASS, Beidou and Galileo in one missile to try to get most accurate positioning.

Since more signals there are, more data there is to calculate, references to positions, thus error margin is lower and lower.
 

2handedswordsman

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GPS is effectively passive, satellites are active signaling where they are, whatever vehicle or missile just needs to calculate GNSS positions.

It is triangulation basically, just at much larger distances and global.

I am a layman, but to me seems it is whatever which you use, only difference is who has control to desync or shut off satellites of GNSS.

Beidou makes sense if US and Israel get desperate they can not resort to shutdown unless they want to provoke and start war with China.

Though one could have receivers of GPS, GLONASS, Beidou and Galileo in one missile to try to get most accurate positioning.

Since more signals there are, more data there is to calculate, references to positions, thus error margin is lower and lower.
Beidou just recently reached global coverage, so it has to be taken in mind. Which system could provide better and more accurate coverage for the area of interest
 

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Except ICBM's that North Korea tested in 2017 were widely different than their SLV at the time as latter is Unha the ancestor of Simorgh.
Though Iran has shown recently seemingly equivalent to RD-250 and perhaps near identical to North Korean March 18 Revolution engine.
Which has single turbopump and feeds two nozzles that can swivel/gimbal unlike RD-250 hence allows steering without using verniers.
Hwasong-15 has capacity to insert comparable payload into orbit as Unha/Simorgh while 10 tons lighter with two stages and not three.
Though most viable ICBM's will always be solid fuel due to far quicker reaction time because it is basically ready like a firearm.
I mentioned North Korea as a comparison to show that Iran has recently been more advanced in its missile program than North Korea. You also are conveniently forgetting the solid fuel Qaem 100, which has already been used for launching a satellite and is manufactured by the irgc themselves. So it's really not surprising that they have the capability of building an ICBM. The timing of the reveal also makes sense now, in a last ditch effort at diplomacy before snapback happens later this week.

Of course that's not proof that the new missile really has the claimed range, but it certainly is credible that it's near enough
 

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Though most viable ICBM's will always be solid fuel due to far quicker reaction time because it is basically ready like a firearm.
Reaction time is same for both types(if missile is presealed). Liquid fuel is just huge pain and hazard to work with.
I mentioned North Korea as a comparison to show that Iran has recently been more advanced in its missile program than North Korea.
It's quite evidently not, across the board.
Iran seems to be ahead in BM seekers, especially optics, as well as many tactical applications; it is also outright more experienced, though koreans had... opportunities recently as well.
But big DPRK missiles very clearly progressed further. Just too many iterations.
 
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