Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

Maikeru said:

Ukraine experience? Perhaps it is much better to have NODs on rifles/weapons, vehicles or fixed mounts, rather than reduce situational awareness which occurs with monocular helmet mounted NODs, at least for line infantry.

Click to expand...

my experience doing land nav with night vision is... definitively better to have a monocular mounted on helmet than something mounted on a rifle. Imagine seeing absolutely nothing except through a toilet paper tube roll. Now imagine it's mounted on your rifle instead of hanging in front of your eye.

My guess is the digital tech is just not mature enough. The image quality looked pretty mediocre, and they do suffer from lag which is quite nauseating from what I heard of people that tried the system.

Maikeru said:

Ukraine experience? Perhaps it is much better to have NODs on rifles/weapons, vehicles or fixed mounts, rather than reduce situational awareness which occurs with monocular helmet mounted NODs, at least for line infantry.

Click to expand...

Two possibilities: 1. Performance or cost-effectiveness is not as good as expected
2. reworkedfor technological iteration, because both digital night vision and low-light night vision have made great progress in both performance and production.

Alkyone said:

my experience doing land nav with night vision is... definitively better to have a monocular mounted on helmet than something mounted on a rifle. Imagine seeing absolutely nothing except through a toilet paper tube roll. Now imagine it's mounted on your rifle instead of hanging in front of your eye.

My guess is the digital tech is just not mature enough. The image quality looked pretty mediocre, and they do suffer from lag which is quite nauseating from what I heard of people that tried the system.

Click to expand...

tbh most of the time I don't even use NVG unless I am the first guy, I just watch the cat eyes in front of me and drone...if it's a big guy or someone I have good relation with, I just grab onto a backstrap and walk/catch up on sleep.

My favourite thing about using an NVG is that I know for sure I didn't drop them.

Alkyone said:

my experience doing land nav with night vision is... definitively better to have a monocular mounted on helmet than something mounted on a rifle. Imagine seeing absolutely nothing except through a toilet paper tube roll. Now imagine it's mounted on your rifle instead of hanging in front of your eye.

My guess is the digital tech is just not mature enough. The image quality looked pretty mediocre, and they do suffer from lag which is quite nauseating from what I heard of people that tried the system.

Click to expand...

PLA is using a large number of relatively backward BBG-191-3 digital NVG and BBG-11A low-light NVG for infantry night marches, uses more advanced night vision sights on firearms when shooting.
New production like ADNV G14P digital NV has image quality comparable to older Gen3 NVG and 100fps appears in the civilian market, new Gen2 NVT-7 tube also started mass production. But the PLA has not yet purchased these kind products on a large scale, at least we haven't seen it yet.

There is another possibility: the limitation of the digital part of the type 21 Integrated Soldier System (smart watch, mobile phone, digital NV) is more about the battery capacity. In fact, other countries' ISS have also encountered similar problems.

Bright red PLAAF patches similar to those of the civilian militia. Never seen these before...