Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.
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MwRYum
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The distance is typical for those of us who either regular a local shooting range or did marksmanship training back in army days; and AR-15 is AR-15, back in our days we've to do it with iron sights.
The tricky part is ... for a figure-11 target, you aim for the torso, but in this case Mister Crooks tried aim for the head.
And contrary to typical speech making mannerism, Trump has the habit of body movements, which adds unpredictable variations towards target aiming. To compensate, a shooter with such setup constraints would've go for the torso, but Mister Crooks got greedy perhaps.
See, many with more specialist setup (sub-MOA level, typically) have tried to replicate that shot and in the process, they've debunked the conspiracy that it was a staged event... that miss was a fluke, all because Trump tilted his head at just that moment.
His aim was actually pretty good lol. Trump probably wouldn't be alive today if he hadn't moved his head at the last second.
The optic probably didn't have much to do with it.
Though one might want to ask -- was he so close to killing Trump because the Holosun optic is so god, or was it just him being good at shooting in general? My feeling is probably a combination of both and neither.
Can someone id the sight used?
An unmagnified red dot at 150m is not quite ideal - iinm, the dot would occlude the head. So yeah, possibly bad sight (for the occasion, not bad quality per se).
A magnified reflex sight makes it a lot easier and one could credit both a good sight and decent shooting to hit a head sized target at 150m.
End of the day though, we don't even know if he was aiming for the head?
Eg: if he had zero'ed at 25m ... he could possible be aiming chest and hitting head = somewhat bad shooter
Too little info known to categorically say one or the other
An unmagnified red dot at 150m is not quite ideal - iinm, the dot would occlude the head. So yeah, possibly bad sight (for the occasion, not bad quality per se).
A magnified reflex sight makes it a lot easier and one could credit both a good sight and decent shooting to hit a head sized target at 150m.
End of the day though, we don't even know if he was aiming for the head?
Eg: if he had zero'ed at 25m ... he could possible be aiming chest and hitting head = somewhat bad shooter
Too little info known to categorically say one or the other
plawolf
Lieutenant General
He missed because he used a red dot without magnifier for a headshot at 100m. The brand makes zero difference. Well, maybe if he got an expensive Eosight with a 1 MoA dot instead of the Holosun’s 2 MoA dot it might have made the shot a little easier. But Holosuns are the opposite of shit, since they have won the grudging respect of the American redneck gun community despite being a Chinese company.
Not impossible, but certainly a high difficulty shot with the sight he chose since red dots are close range combat optics designed for speed over precision.
At 100m, the red dot is almost the same size as a human head.
A LPVO would have been the preferred sight at such ranges for headshots, but even adding a 3x magnifier would have massively increased his odds.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Yeah, that's the opposite of "shit". I know a lot of people in the American gun community who like it and even those who don't admit that the faults aren't that big of a deal and more of a cherry-picking than it being a bad product. I would've gotten one for myself back then I didn't waste my budget on other things.
Looks like Oxide somehow got hold of a few pairs of PLA digital tubes. Now, presuming these are real (which they might not be, considering just how many commercial "homemade" replicas have been popping up in the last few years), we might be soon seeing the first ever publicly available review of these units since their debut.
On the other hand, this guy works for US DoD, which does raise some questions on how military equipment like this managed to evade the Chinese equivalent of ITAR and make their way into the hands of an adversary
On the other hand, this guy works for US DoD, which does raise some questions on how military equipment like this managed to evade the Chinese equivalent of ITAR and make their way into the hands of an adversary
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I'm still salty he hasn't released the test results for the PLA armour plate he received.
Of all the youtubers, he is the one to get this stuff. Buffman Range does the full range of testing on armour plates to a far higher standard. Oxide legit just eyeballed it on lots of his tests. HYPE Militaria is an enthusiast of military equipment, especially night vision equipment, which is why he's been posted here before. He would be able to compare between the PLA issued NVD, the ADNV g14p2, Norinco GS610a and even a US gen iii tube.
I bet Oxide does have the results for the PLA issued plate and only shares it with the US DoD. That PLA issued NVD has networking capabilities that the US will use to develop electronic counter measures to.
Whoever sent it to Oxide, of all people, should be shot. People send him stuff because he's a well known gunfluencer, not necessarily a good one.