Indian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

twineedle

Junior Member
Registered Member
12 "sources" which are openly partisan and unreliable. Interesting how Indian media and Wikipedia are now considered reliable.

Meanwhile, satellite images show something completely different from what those "sources" are saying
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

hamaoka123

New Member
Registered Member
12 "sources" which are openly partisan and unreliable. Interesting how Indian media and Wikipedia are now considered reliable.
I have literally never once refuted any sources within my history of being here.

So Indian generals and marshals claiming that India lost control points and territory are unreliable?
Boy if that is the case how does the command structure function over there?

"according to one of the research papers submitted at last week’s annual police meet in Delhi"

I've provided 12 sources from India's own state media and corporations along with interviews with authority figures. Now how about YOU provide sources of "satellite imagery".
 

hamaoka123

New Member
Registered Member
India's former chief of army staff openly refuted those claims. Yet somehow he isn't mentioned among those "generals and Marshalls lol
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
- Your source has no mention of satellite imagery
- Satellite imagery from Bloomberg, Google Earth, Maxar Technologies, CNES/Airbus, Landsat/Copernicus geolocated and confirmed loss of territory:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
1710323427776.png



Now, lets use 2 Indian sources to verify this:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
1710323561012.png


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Here is your satellite imagery which literally contradicts what you've said earlier, about satellite imagery showing no loss of territory. Sources which are biased towards India, are refuting your unfounded claims. I provided 15 sources now, whereas you've provided one, with no empirical evidence.
 

twineedle

Junior Member
Registered Member
- Your source has no mention of satellite imagery
- Satellite imagery from Bloomberg, Google Earth, Maxar Technologies, CNES/Airbus, Landsat/Copernicus geolocated and confirmed loss of territory:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
View attachment 126592



Now, lets use 2 Indian sources to verify this:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
View attachment 126593


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Here is your satellite imagery which literally contradicts what you've said earlier, about satellite imagery showing no loss of territory. Sources which are biased towards India, are refuting your unfounded claims. I provided 15 sources now, whereas you've provided one, with no empirical evidence.
You are conveniently forgetting that shortly later China pulled back from the historic Indian perception of the lac.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

This is just one source out of many

More images:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The only thing your source by India today shows is China temporarily intruded by not even a kilometer before moving back to its side of the lac. It basically proves my point.
 

hamaoka123

New Member
Registered Member
You are conveniently forgetting that shortly later China pulled back from the historic Indian perception of the lac.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

This is just one source out of many
However....

You are also ignoring the fact that it resulted in a net gain of territory for China..?

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Both events occurring after the military disengagement.

"Former
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
MP from the
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
,
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
said in a tweet that India had withdrawn from its own territory.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
"

You're deviating from the actual point. The fact of the matter is, is that India lost territory to China. That's the reality of the situation, if you don't want to believe it, despite empirical data showing otherwise, that's up to you.
 

GiantPanda

Junior Member
Registered Member
However....

You are also ignoring the fact that it resulted in a net gain of territory for China..?

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Both events occurring after the military disengagement.

"Former
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
MP from the
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
,
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
said in a tweet that India had withdrawn from its own territory.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
"

You're deviating from the actual point. The fact of the matter is, is that India lost territory to China. That's the reality of the situation, if you don't want to believe it, despite empirical data showing otherwise, that's up to you.

Indians do not believe in empirical evidence when it comes to China.

This was during a year when India had only 2 launches (1 failed) to China's 56:
IMG_2293.jpeg

India has no viable commercial capacity while China is one of the few chip-making countries with three of the top 10 fabs, emphasis on dominance over China:

IMG_2294.jpeg
 

twineedle

Junior Member
Registered Member
However....

You are also ignoring the fact that it resulted in a net gain of territory for China..?

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Both events occurring after the military disengagement.

"Former
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
MP from the
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
,
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
said in a tweet that India had withdrawn from its own territory.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
"

You're deviating from the actual point. The fact of the matter is, is that India lost territory to China. That's the reality of the situation, if you don't want to believe it, despite empirical data showing otherwise, that's up to you.
Lol you are claiming "empirical evidence" yet posting nothing but unsubstantiated claims from politicians like swamy. You just conveniently ignored all the satellite imagery evidence you asked for which shows pla is on its side of the lac.

Some more neutral sources for anyone interested:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

India supposedly "lost territory," yet all of China's positions are behind the same lac which has been in place since 1962. That definitely makes sense.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

hamaoka123

New Member
Registered Member
Lol you are claiming "empirical evidence" yet posting nothing but unsubstantiated claims from politicians like swamy. You just conveniently ignored all the satellite imagery evidence you asked for which shows pla is on its side of the lac.

Some more neutral sources for anyone interested:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

India supposedly "lost territory," yet all of China's positions are behind the same lac which has been in place since 1962. That definitely makes sense.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
You've completely ignored my point. "Lol you are claiming "empirical evidence" yet posting nothing but unsubstantiated claims from politicians like swamy." Which are the satellite imagery taken after 2020. If you don't understand what empirical evidence is, then don't try to use a red herring fallacy to ignore incompetency in your argument.

"India supposedly "lost territory," yet all of China's positions are behind the same lac which has been in place since 1962. That definitely makes sense."

Satellite imagery is there for you to look at. After the withdrawal and disengagement from the FRONT LINE. Not LAC. Basic comprehension.
Sources you provide are for Pangong-tso territorial changes in 2021 only. They don't prove your point. It's an extremely pathetic attempt at upholding a ghost argument.

I won't be replying anymore since you've failed repeatedly to acknowledge any sources, yet you expect me to kowtow to yours. I even used sources biased in favour of the Indians, and against the Chinese.
 

twineedle

Junior Member
Registered Member
You've completely ignored my point. "Lol you are claiming "empirical evidence" yet posting nothing but unsubstantiated claims from politicians like swamy." Which are the satellite imagery taken after 2020.

"India supposedly "lost territory," yet all of China's positions are behind the same lac which has been in place since 1962. That definitely makes sense."

Satellite imagery is there for you to look at. After the withdrawal and disengagement from the FRONT LINE. Not LAC. Basic comprehension.

I won't be replying anymore since you've failed repeatedly to acknowledge any sources, yet you expect me to kowtow to yours. Even used sources biased towards the Indians.
The front line and the lac are literally the same thing in this context. Check Google Earth because it's pretty clear you have no idea where the lac even is yet you are trying to lecture me on it. I have also shown you multiple satellite images showing the lac in comparison to the Chinese pullback under disengagent.

You only further display your ignorance by claiming that the sources I presented are based on a post pangong to status quo, when none of them even mentioned pangong disengagent and were from 2020, months before China pulled back from pangong.

Again, check Google Earth. The "front line" is the same lac which has been in place since 1962. Nothing changed in 2020.

And which sources have I used which were biased towards Indians? Unless you think scmp, andalou, and al Jazeera are Indian biased sources lol. You're the one who consistently posts partisan and biased Indian sources and ignores all the satellite imagery I have posted showing no pla presence in Indian territory.

All the facts show that India did not lose territory in 2020. Nothing you posted proved otherwise. Just heresay at best, and lies at worst.
 
Last edited:
Top