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Deino

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India intends to purchase a sufficient quantity of engines and spare parts, establishing a reserve to cover engine replacement maintenance and potential reordering of new jets, ensuring a supply for more than 10 years.


But what has this again "intends to ..." to do with your original claim and my reply to overhyped hopes and when facing reality, not much remains?
 

Sinnavuuty

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I recently learned that the first flight of the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is scheduled to take place in approximately 4.5 years. And The plan of installing the existing Kaveri engine, which has a thrust of 73kN, on one of the Tejas prototypes as a proof of concept. Additionally, DRDO and GTRE will collaborate to enhance the thrust of the Kaveri engine from the existing 73kN to 90kN. Simultaneously, efforts will be made to reduce the weight of the Kaveri engine.
The AMCA project looks like a complete mess:
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Pataliputra

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The AMCA project looks like a complete mess:
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The utmost priority for India lies in establishing a world-class engine for its jets, akin to the reliable and efficient GE F414. The Kaveri engine program has been ongoing in India for the past 30 years, and it is anticipated that within the next decade, we will witness its integration into drones and trainer jets. However, if the agreement between India and France to develop an engine for AMCA is successfully finalized, it will be a game-changer. Both nations can pool their resources and technological expertise to create the most advanced engine to date. This engine would not only propel Tejas and AMCA but also any 5th or 6th generation jets designed by India or France in the future.
The same engine could be employed for upgrading the Rafales after 10 years, once the existing engines complete their life cycle and the power requirement of Rafales increases with the use of more powerful sensors.
 

Jason_

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The utmost priority for India lies in establishing a world-class engine for its jets, akin to the reliable and efficient GE F414. The Kaveri engine program has been ongoing in India for the past 30 years, and it is anticipated that within the next decade, we will witness its integration into drones and trainer jets. However, if the agreement between India and France to develop an engine for AMCA is successfully finalized, it will be a game-changer. Both nations can pool their resources and technological expertise to create the most advanced engine to date. This engine would not only propel Tejas and AMCA but also any 5th or 6th generation jets designed by India or France in the future.
The same engine could be employed for upgrading the Rafales after 10 years, once the existing engines complete their life cycle and the power requirement of Rafales increases with the use of more powerful sensors.
Can you imagine being the French official who signed off on this deal? "I am going to throw away decades of French independence in military technology and partner with a country with next to zero experience building modern turbofans. Now, which critical component can I entrust India to 'jointly develop' so the program can enjoy two decades of delay?"
 

Sardaukar20

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All that hype and noise, and I thought it was delivered already. What took them so long?
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Bad choice for the PH anyway, choosing the Brahmos over the original P-800 Onyx. An overpriced and overhyped knock-off of the original. Brahmos is not new to China and it won't scare the PLAN at all. For more than a decade, they have been dealing with the threats of high-supersonic AshM's like the P-800 Onyx and the HF-III missiles. If the PH thinks this will alter the balance of power in its favour, it won't. What it will do is compel China to threaten the PH with even more firepower.
 

Pataliputra

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Can you imagine being the French official who signed off on this deal? "I am going to throw away decades of French independence in military technology and partner with a country with next to zero experience building modern turbofans. Now, which critical component can I entrust India to 'jointly develop' so the program can enjoy two decades of delay?"
Both Rolls Royce from Britain and Safran from France have extended an offer to India for jointly developing a turbofan engine. These countries are aware that India is steadily progressing towards independently developing such an engine. Once India achieves this milestone, the opportunity to generate substantial revenue from joint development and export of the engine will diminish.
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The American company GE has also suggested a joint venture for developing a turbofan engine. However, considering the unpredictable nature of American foreign policy and its significant alliance with Pakistan, India may hesitate to enter into such a crucial agreement with the United States.
 
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