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Stealthflanker

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That's a good opportunity to give those newbuild MKI the foundation to finally use any AESA radar they had in mind.

One such example would be the new cooling system for the radar, with that fancy 10 KW capacity. That can replace previously used N011M bars cooling system. These are some new items in the new MKI's


Not sure why "EW suite" and "Next Gen RWR" are in different place in the list. as They're more likely to be integrated. It might also sign that the MKI would have internal jammer similar as the MiG-29's. ASPJ is "Advanced Self Protection Jammer" which is podded.
 

james smith esq

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DRDO's "Swift" AKA "Ghatak" hyped up (mostly by Indian nationalists) "UCAV" we knew was a small model toy sized "demonstrator".

Apparently India photoshopped most of the images of the Ghatak to remove the vertical stabiliser the "flight demonstrator model" still had.

Essentially India has still been unable to fly a dining table sized RC toy model of that "UCAV" without using vertical stabilisers. It isn't even a flying wing when in RC model form! There are RC model enthusiasts who can engineer, make, and fly actual flying wings! Yet DRDO has somehow not been able to at least for the Ghatak demonstrator.

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What India's photoshopped promotion catalogues show:

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I keep tellin’ y’all, this is the “Funny Stuff” thread!
 

BoraTas

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Just saw this post from Damien Symon

I find it incredulous how anyone could claim an Indian Air Force advantage with respect to China in 2023, but it appears that this is the concensus not only among the Jai Hind crowd but also the professional policy-making circles in India.

Which lead me to wonder, what are India's intelligence capabilities towards China? They have very few Mandarin speakers and probability very limited HUMINT assets. Not a whole lot of satellites in orbit. Cyber capabilities probabilty aren't world-class, either. Institutionally, Indian intelligence probably has a Pakistan/anti-terror focus. Historically, they were completely unprepared in 1962.

Could it be that Indians genuinely know very little about Chinese capabilities? Do they get their intel from second hand Western sources? If they buy Deino's books, would it be all new information?

Thoughts?
I was reading a bit on the war of 1962. As you read, you see Indians convinced themselves into confrontation with China using almost the same arguments they use today. China being alone, having an economic calamity and internal tensions, India having the logistical advantage in the Himalayas, etc... I really find it funny how they (and amusingly the Western blob) believe the country has inherent advantages when China is so much better than India despite the former being in horrible conditions by the time PRC was founded.

20 years ago Indians were joking about the Type-99, QBZ-95 and J-10. What happened to their Indian counterparts compared to these 3 programs? How the Arjun, INSAS and Tejas are doing? They believed they were "winning", they fell much further behind, yet they still believe they are "winning".

To summarize, they have a weird superiority complex and they manage to preserve it even when the real world disagrees.
 

tygyg1111

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I was reading a bit on the war of 1962. As you read, you see Indians convinced themselves into confrontation with China using almost the same arguments they use today. China being alone, having an economic calamity and internal tensions, India having the logistical advantage in the Himalayas, etc... I really find it funny how they (and amusingly the Western blob) believe the country has inherent advantages when China is so much better than India despite the former being in horrible conditions by the time PRC was founded.

20 years ago Indians were joking about the Type-99, QBZ-95 and J-10. What happened to their Indian counterparts compared to these 3 programs? How the Arjun, INSAS and Tejas are doing? They believed they were "winning", they fell much further behind, yet they still believe they are "winning".

To summarize, they have a weird superiority complex and they manage to preserve it even when the real world disagrees.
They have no exit path - the only way out is to admit reality, which is too painful for them. The only way forward then is to continue the emotional ponzi scheme.
 

Jason_

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I was reading a bit on the war of 1962. As you read, you see Indians convinced themselves into confrontation with China using almost the same arguments they use today. China being alone, having an economic calamity and internal tensions, India having the logistical advantage in the Himalayas, etc... I really find it funny how they (and amusingly the Western blob) believe the country has inherent advantages when China is so much better than India despite the former being in horrible conditions by the time PRC was founded.

20 years ago Indians were joking about the Type-99, QBZ-95 and J-10. What happened to their Indian counterparts compared to these 3 programs? How the Arjun, INSAS and Tejas are doing? They believed they were "winning", they fell much further behind, yet they still believe they are "winning".

To summarize, they have a weird superiority complex and they manage to preserve it even when the real world disagrees.
By far the most hilarious argument I've seen Jai Hinds make is "India today is not the India in 1962 anymore." Damn right it isn't! India's position today relative to China is incomparably worse in every dimension relative to 1962.
 

ansy1968

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20 years ago Indians were joking about the Type-99, QBZ-95 and J-10. What happened to their Indian counterparts compared to these 3 programs? How the Arjun, INSAS and Tejas are doing? They believed they were "winning", they fell much further behind, yet they still believe they are "winning".

To summarize, they have a weird superiority complex and they manage to preserve it even when the real world disagrees.
Sir the Chinese can't compete, they don't have a Mental Gymnastic program at the same level with the Indians. ;)
 
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