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zavve said:

I do think both MBDA and European governments would 100% object to Meteor integration onto Su-30 MKI.

India doesn't integrate the missiles, the manufacturers of both the missile and the fighters do it together.

Definitely not. Look at how long it took China to even get close to western engines, even with the WS-15 I doubt they will reach the performance of the F135. To even reach F404 levels of performance I believe it will take about 10-15 years for India.

As in my answer above, with Dassault and the French government's permission, DRDO and Dassault will jointly integrate Astra missiles on the Rafale

Maybe a budget Meteor, both in cost and performance.

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Su30MKI is Russian as long as it has Russian Avionics the day India replaces the avionics with Indian one it would become an Indian fighter jet and to integrate Meteor with UTTAM AESA Radar MBDA would be sharing source codes with India not with Russia

Manufacturers of the Radar and Missile do it together by sharing source codes but India integrated Israeli Missile with Russian Radar without Israel and Russia sharing source codes with each other

I agree with this point but India has already developed an engine called Kaveri which produces 73KN of stable wet thrust

But you said Europe can't share source code with India how will they integrate an Indian Missile with an European Radar without sharing the source codes ?

The specs of Astra MK3 are superior to meteor but only time will tell whether it's superior or not

Chandragupt said:

That's Pakistani claim I don't know how true is that but even Pakistanis have accepted that Indian airforce was able to deeply penetrate the airspace of Pakistan with 12 Mirage 2000 jets this alone tells a lot about the kind of electronic warfare capability India has they jammed Pakistani radars.
Pakistan had no clue they came to know about Indian attack only when IAF officially made a statement in press conference

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If India is jamming Pakistani radars then Pakistan would know of the attack from the jamming signal.

zavve said:

Maybe a budget Meteor, both in cost and performance.

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I leave you the benefit of doubt

On the question of integration of Western missiles in Indian airframes. There has been one notable case of ASRAAM integration with the MKI (img attachment 1). ASRAAM is also being planned to be put to local production with freedom of local tech plug-ins as required under a new distinction as NG-CCM (img attachment 2). Maybe Meteor could follow the same path.

Atomicfrog said:

So Indian Su30MKI are frankenjet... do they have matching engine or they plan to change some?

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It's simpler - it's their way of building in redundancy.
India tries to get all their airframes to use weapons from as much suppliers as possible, thus proofing them from supply disturbances.

One may say it's a wasteful solution - but a wasteful solution is still a solution.
Especially when you can't 100% rely for sure on your local suppliers yet.

Gloire_bb said:

It's simpler - it's their way of building in redundancy.
India tries to get all their airframes to use weapons from as much suppliers as possible, thus proofing them from supply disturbances.

One may say it's a wasteful solution - but a wasteful solution is still a solution.
Especially when you can't 100% rely for sure on your local suppliers yet.

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Or maybe they reverse engineered Su30MKI a long time ago and had the source codes of radars from the very beginning
The mission computer of Su30MKI was Indian from the very beginning now they're replacing the Russian PESA Radar with Indian made UTTAM AESA Radar
The aircraft is of Russian origin but the brain of the aircraft is Indian made
India has this unique capability of combining best of the both worlds Tejas MK1A for example has American engine , Russian gun and Indian avionics to so that it can carry weapons from all around the world

Finally GE is ready to transfer 100% technology of GE F-414 engine (98KN Class) to India this engine will power most of the Indian made fighter jets
Though it would be interesting to see whether they transfer the IP Rights to India or not would India be able to modify these engines without seeking permission from GE

Chandragupt said:

Though it would be interesting to see whether they transfer the IP Rights to India or not would India be able to modify these engines without seeking permission from GE

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Most likely they won't give IP rights since then India could just produce the engine at a lower cost and export it.

Gloire_bb said:

It's simpler - it's their way of building in redundancy.
India tries to get all their airframes to use weapons from as much suppliers as possible, thus proofing them from supply disturbances.

One may say it's a wasteful solution - but a wasteful solution is still a solution.
Especially when you can't 100% rely for sure on your local suppliers yet.

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Don't know if they are getting all the capacity of each weapon systems while doing so. But in scarcity, better to have jack of all trades than specialized aircrafts.

zavve said:

Most likely they won't give IP rights since then India could just produce the engine at a lower cost and export it.

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Can India continue to manufacture these engines under CAATSA sanctions? Because the technology is already with India