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Bellum_Romanum said:
Hard pass. I much rather take verbal diarrhea from our frienemies of India than to have both sides expend lives which will hardened both countries stance against each other at the Great benefit of the western countries.
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No guns didn't stop people dying in Galwan.

I also don't understand why more drones aren't being used to patrol contested areas. This Indian unit should have been spotted and the Chinese unit armed appropriately if they were going to confront them.
Stryker said:
I second that. The Indians seem to think the LaC is just another LoC that they share with Pakistan and they can occasionally keep flaring up skirmishes and duels. They need to be shown their place

India is not a worthy country to be 'friends' with. They really do have this ingrained sense of superiority due to the caste division. If you look at their pompous foreign minister Jaishankar, you will notice an air of arrogance and know-it-all from the guy. Most urban Indians who are from the higher Brahmin caste like the FM behave the same way. Dismissive, rigid, conceited douchebags. Sadly, most of Indian decision makers come from higher caste and thus view themselves as superior beings not just in a domestic sense but due to their perception of "Supapoowah" version of India, they behave that way internationally too.
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The Indians wouldn't try this on Pakistan, an armed group crossing the LoC would be annihilated. They are taking advantage of China's soft stance to win propaganda points for domestic consumption.
 
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Abominable said:
No guns didn't stop people dying in Galwan.

I also don't understand why more drones aren't being used to patrol contested areas. This Indian unit should have been spotted and the Chinese unit armed appropriately if they were going to confront them.

The Indians wouldn't try this on Pakistan, an armed group crossing the LoC would be annihilated. They are taking advantage of China's soft stance to win propaganda points for domestic consumption.
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True, China is way too soft on India. Guess there are business interests at stake here, especially since China enjoys a massive $80B+ trade surplus with the Indians (which is greater than the amount they spend on their defence btw lol) but still there should be more forceful response to Indian provocations, this latest clash was handled far better with the use of DE weapons. Next step should be massive employment of UGVs and UAVs alongwith full blown cyber attacks against Indian military & commercial interests with plausible deniability. Since they seem to think ISRO is their crown jewel, a 'Stuxnet' class of cyberweapon should be employed to possibly destroy/ degrade their facilities which would finally make the Indian leadership more aware of the costs of messing with a superpower. The recent AIIMS hospital cyberattack was a step in the right direction which must be expanded in scope and severity so that China has more bargaining chips at the negotiation table. China-India relations are only going to get worse from here, might as well test Chinese cyber capabilities against them to see what works and what doesn't lol.
 
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Stryker said:
True, China is way too soft on India. Guess there are business interests at stake here, especially since China enjoys a massive $80B+ trade surplus with the Indians (which is greater than the amount they spend on their defence btw lol) but still there should be more forceful response to Indian provocations, this latest clash was handled far better with the use of DE weapons. Next step should be massive employment of UGVs and UAVs alongwith full blown cyber attacks against Indian military & commercial interests with plausible deniability. Since they seem to think ISRO is their crown jewel, a 'Stuxnet' class of cyberweapon should be employed to possibly destroy/ degrade their facilities which would finally make the Indian leadership more aware of the costs of messing with a superpower. The recent AIIMS hospital cyberattack was a step in the right direction which must be expanded in scope and severity so that China has more bargaining chips at the negotiation table. China-India relations are only going to get worse from here, might as well test Chinese cyber capabilities against them to see what works and what doesn't lol.
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Destroy what Indian facilities? There's no benefit to China from starting a war with India.

Rather than risking a war, the proper response would be economic pressure on India. The $80 billion you talk about benefits the Indian economy far more than it benefits China.
 
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As the news spread regarding the border clash that happened between the PLA and Indian Army emerged, predictably the usual nationalists, sensationalist noise have come out on both sides (well, mostly the Indian side). Since it is difficult to grasp what is the general perception and understanding of the average Chinese towards India, the border dispute, it is fair to objectively say that India and Indians have been the most vociferous, loquacious with regards to their chest thumping and pugnacious pronouncements all over the media and internet, including this very forum.

Here are but some of the most prominent "analyses" I can find that discuss this recent episode. Much of the sources of the discussion are from and of western and Indian origin. Since most of the folks here can't speak, understand, a lick of mandarin/putonghua and the fact that Chinese reporting in English on this topic is limited to a passing story by CGTN if at all.

Carnegie (Think tank U.S.)
1 guest from Beijing University Vs 2 guests of Indian ethnic background.


The Print (Indian media)
Guest: former Indian Army Chief of Staff
Premise of his argument: China's PLA is acting unprofessional and has stooped down to the level of hooliganism.

Side note: Indians love to use hyperbolic words to dismiss and insult her enemies real and imagined. China isn't spared one bit and yet it's funny and nauseating to hear the victim hood from these folks when they hear, read, given a taste of their own distasteful language. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander.

 
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Deino said:
I really don't get it! :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604465106758279174
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I bet they have realised they can't afford enough Rafales for more than one carrier and they suspect their own domestic project will be a failure. The Russians are the only alternative but they seem to have had a poor experience with the Mig-29K.

Instead of dreaming about a third aircraft carrier they need to finish building their second and getting enough aircraft to deck out both carriers.

You'd think the Indians would learn from their mistakes from the Vikrant and actually plan things properly. But nope...Indians will be Indian.
 
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Abominable said:
I bet they have realised they can't afford enough Rafales for more than one carrier and they suspect their own domestic project will be a failure. The Russians are the only alternative but they seem to have had a poor experience with the Mig-29K.

Instead of dreaming about a third aircraft carrier they need to finish building their second and getting enough aircraft to deck out both carriers.

You'd think the Indians would learn from their mistakes from the Vikrant and actually plan things properly. But nope...Indians will be Indian.
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Well, according to some Indians, they have now a working HGV that was recently tested as a showcase of Indian military power against China's recent "bullying" tactics at the border.

 
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