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tygyg1111

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siegecrossbow said:
If they really become a super power, do you think they’ll mellow out or stay the same or get worse?
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Not unless something happens that completely changes their society... e.g. get a communist government
While breakup into various small states seems like the best route, their current size does make them a counterweight and bargaining chip of sorts against the US + vassals
 
Bellum_Romanum

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vincent said:
Why waste your time with the Indians? The best way to deal with them is to ignore them. They have no power to do shit anyways
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It's not always the best idea or strategy to ignore a country like India with It's geographical location, population size, and oversized ambitions. It is best to ignore their warmongering and delusional screeching yes, but one can't be too careful if China simply ignores actions that are breaching any of her core redlines. After all, India is in two camps and is being used and utilized by both sides to gain some sort of intelligence, understanding over the other i.e. Russia/China vs U.S. and her vassals.
 
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Bellum_Romanum said:
In the pursuit of trying to learn, understand, and discern some of Indian Military and it's leaders past and present mindset in terms of their true capability in modern warfare I have tried to read some of Indian Military analysis from western think tanks (which are hard to come by for some reason) that are nothing but sycophantic in their assessments. Highly inflating India's supposed mountain warfare skills, and the military's extreme professionalism but I guess that's to be expected from the west in their pursuit of trying to woo India fully into their camp for obvious geopolitical reasons.

But I can't seem to understand nor fully appreciate where this much vaunted and undeserved praise comes from? Which country or countries did India masterfully showcased it's full martial abilities that can be truly said objectively as brilliant. Does beating Pakistan back in 1971, 1999 Kargil War makes Indian military prowess that much better over China's PLA?

According to this retired LT. General, the Vostok exercise of Russia with China and India among other participating countries is simply low for India in terms of learning, evaluating actual battlefield tactics in stark contrast to what India is doing with it's participation with American military from RIMPAC, Malabar exercise, Special forces exercise etc..because all their exercises with western military, especially with the U.S. are all about military interoperability, whereas military exercises with Russia is all about Russian intent in showcasing their military weapons for economic, prestige purposes. Not to mention that Russia for all it's assumptive position as one of the top best military power couldn't even beat Ukraine despite it's her supposed advantage that in the 6 months of the war and it's still going (the general said this with a very dismissive tone towards Russia.) At the same time, while India has only sent around 400 of their troops in this latest exercise, it's still far better qualitatively compared to what the PLA sent, since their troops are "allegedly handpicked from the entirety of the PLA." Moreover, Indian airforce fighter pilots are far more professional and tactically more proficient than their American counterparts. The general goes on to state with an emphasis that China's PLA may have sent more troops and equipment at this latest Vostok 2022 exercise to hone their military prowess since they never experienced modern combat/war unlike India.

So as you can see, India despite it's current defense expenditure is already ahead of China in almost every category that matters militarily sans budget, industrial capability, imagine what India can do to China when it achieves it's long assumed mantle of a superpower country with $5Trillion economy? China wouldn't have an iota of chance.

Perhaps, I am being too bias with my own pro-China stance that am not giving the good General due deference to his learned opinion especially one that seem to dismiss the PLA and highlights INdian military prowess like it's already an equal to that of the U.S. military.



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Even USA and China will not said they look down upon Russia military power...
 
ZeEa5KPul

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Bellum_Romanum said:
It's not always the best idea or strategy to ignore a country like India with It's geographical location, population size, and oversized ambitions. It is best to ignore their warmongering and delusional screeching yes, but one can't be too careful if China simply ignores actions that are breaching any of her core redlines. After all, India is in two camps and is being used and utilized by both sides to gain some sort of intelligence, understanding over the other i.e. Russia/China vs U.S. and her vassals.
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The only thing in India's future is mass starvation and disintegration. We mock "Superpower 2020", but the reality is India as a superpower at any date is laughable. Not in 2020, not in 2220, not ever.
 
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ZeEa5KPul said:
The only thing in India's future is mass starvation and disintegration. We mock "Superpower 2020", but the reality is India as a superpower at any date is laughable. Not in 2020, not in 2220, not ever.
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China should work with PK to support and escalate various independence movements within India. India, in some areas seems to be at around China 2000's level. It would be ironic if, just as China was helped by AQ vs twin towers distracting America, India was saved by some event distracting China.
It would be funny though, if a twin towers scale event happened within India during this time.
 
Staedler

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ZeEa5KPul said:
The only thing in India's future is mass starvation and disintegration. We mock "Superpower 2020", but the reality is India as a superpower at any date is laughable. Not in 2020, not in 2220, not ever.
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Yea, as the years past it's looking more and more like India will never be able to develop.

Automation is starting to end cheap labor force advantages. India's demographic dividend seems to be approaching it's end as well.
We're also seeing major water and heat stress from climate change (which is only going to get worse) and the Indian subcontinent is going to be hit hardest by it.

Doubt India as a nation will make it to 2050 under all these stressors when it has shown no ability to resolve any domestic issues even under good times.
 
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tygyg1111 said:
China should work with PK to support and escalate various independence movements within India. India, in some areas seems to be at around China 2000's level. It would be ironic if, just as China was helped by AQ vs twin towers distracting America, India was saved by some event distracting China.
It would be funny though, if a twin towers scale event happened within India during this time.
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It would be more productive to support Pakistan's development economically imo
 
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