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Temstar

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Why is the Indian Navy so set on procuring a new naval jet (Rafale or F18) instead of buying more Mig-29Ks? Are the Migs that outdated? Isn't Russia also developing an updated naval Mig-35?
They had some really bad experience with their existing Mig-29K, their have really low serviceability.

When Russians did the rebuild for INS Vikramaditya they did this very sneaky thing where they designed the lift to be just big enough for Mig-29K, and Mig-29K is really small when folded:
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Which pretty much means no other carrier fighter can fit on them, thereby locking Indians into Mig-29K for that carrier. And yes those lifts are sort of in the middle of the ship and not on the edges so you can't stick the back of the plane outside like an edge lift either.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Why is the Indian Navy so set on procuring a new naval jet (Rafale or F18) instead of buying more Mig-29Ks? Are the Migs that outdated? Isn't Russia also developing an updated naval Mig-35?
JAI Hind mentality is why, and yet those folks have the audacity and mendacity to make fun of Type 003 Fujian for not having a plane when the supposed "finished" INS Vikrant don't even have any or don't know which plane to have. Indian mindset and their delusions of grandeur have no equal.
 

Chish

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Are those rough seas or is it just the bobbing thing that carrier does? Probably the latter, the rest of the water looks calm.
Due to the limited length of their construction dry dock, the ski jump is stretched far beyond the bow underside. And with a sharp and narrow bow underside and without bulbous, the carrier is prone to skipping like a happy kangaroo. Yes, it is more likely the bobbing thing. They just have to secured down everything while under sail and endure the drenching.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Due to the limited length of their construction dry dock, the ski jump is stretched far beyond the bow underside. And with a sharp and narrow bow underside and without bulbous, the carrier is prone to skipping like a happy kangaroo. Yes, it is more likely the bobbing thing. They just have to secured down everything while under sail and endure the drenching.
The funny thing is that since it's a ski jump design and need a need windspeed over it to even have planes fly off, there is no way to avoid the bopping. If they slow the ship down to give a smoother ride so the planes can take off, then there is not enough wind speed. If they go fast, the ship go full kangaroo and the planes can't take off.

Maybe that's why they haven't picked a plane for it yet, they need to find one that can take off with a load in low ship speeds with no wind and a ski jump or can handle that bopping bow.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
The funny thing is that since it's a ski jump design and need a need windspeed over it to even have planes fly off, there is no way to avoid the bopping. If they slow the ship down to give a smoother ride so the planes can take off, then there is not enough wind speed. If they go fast, the ship go full kangaroo and the planes can't take off.

Maybe that's why they haven't picked a plane for it yet, they need to find one that can take off with a load in low ship speeds with no wind and a ski jump or can handle that bopping bow.

If they time it well, they get the free lift from the trampoline effect.
 
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