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Mt1701d

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Look like PLA has chicken out from further confrontation after the defeat it received at the battle of pangong lake 2020 C.E.
@ougoah

Wait wait wait, correct me if I am wrong, but this thing was about a PLA incursion, into a disputed area which the Indian side unilaterally declared to be theirs and then created a governing body for the areaagain unilaterally.

The PLA incursion objective was to have the talks to return back to the before the Indian unilateral action, right? So the talks continuing is within the original intention of the PLA in the first place, whilst to the Indian side their territory has been transgressed and should be the ones defending their actions and declining the talks with a show force to expel the PLA from what Indian views as their territory.

So, on the one hand the PLA is achieving their original objective without giving ground, since the troops are still there on the ground and is in ‘Indian territory’ as it were and on the other hand the Indians whom has their territory transgressed have not achieved their objective of making the PLA withdraw, whilst at the same time havIng to discuss terms with the transgressor without any major action, is somehow the one with the upper hand?

I am sorry but I am not sure where the chickening out bit comes in when the talks was the point of the whole incursion.

If I am wrong in my understanding of the situation then please let me know.
 

berserk

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UTTAM AESA is state of the art liquid cooled multi mode solid state phase array radar based on GaAs technology.

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Uttam features Quad TRM setting with each having 4 TRM giving it a scalable capability. Tejas Uttam has a total of 184 QTRMs which roughly translate to 736 TRM's.

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This tiny radar punch way above its size boosting an impressive range of 160km against 2m^2 target.
some feature of the Radar.

• C-band line-of-sight

• Ku-band SATCOM datalinks.

•High MTBCF

•IFF modes

• high ECM immunity

•ultra low side lobe antenna

To name a few......

@ougoah @Mohsin77
 
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Mt1701d

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Only one confused is PLA and it's fanboys after the decisive defeat PLA received at the battle of pangong lake on the year of the rat.

What battle? A scuffle between 2 patrols can hardly be called a battle. As I understand the facts on the ground is even less clear. The Indian side will naturally claim their victory and same for the Chinese.

So without more thorough Info of the scuffle your comment makes no sense, as the video doesn’t really show anything meaningful, apart from Indian soldiers with police gear smashing a PLA vehicle, and the PLA refusing to engage and escalate, at least in the video. Outside of that there is no more solid evidence apart from a photo without context. This is just he said she said. There is no victory to be claimed.

But on the bigger picture is the Indians has not been able to dislodge their perceived transgressors, so how is that a decisive defeat for the transgressors in any sense of the word. Instead the transgressors achieve their objective of forcing talks upon the Indians. So in battle and war you don’t achieve your objective in any way but it’s victory?
 

berserk

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Uttam AESA-MMR's components-1.JPG

I would love to see a scalable GaN based high density quad packed Uttam AESA for SU 30MKI upgrade.

Credit: Kuntal Biswas

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1280 TRM is to low for 960mm diameter antenna though .Better packaging technology is needed.
 

berserk

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What battle? A scuffle between 2 patrols can hardly be called a battle. As I understand the facts on the ground is even less clear. The Indian side will naturally claim their victory and same for the Chinese.

So without more thorough Info of the scuffle your comment makes no sense, as the video doesn’t really show anything meaningful, apart from Indian soldiers with police gear smashing a PLA vehicle, and the PLA refusing to engage and escalate, at least in the video. Outside of that there is no more solid evidence apart from a photo without context. This is just he said she said. There is no victory to be claimed.

But on the bigger picture is the Indians has not been able to dislodge their perceived transgressors, so how is that a decisive defeat for the transgressors in any sense of the word. Instead the transgressors achieve their objective of forcing talks upon the Indians. So in battle and war you don’t achieve your objective in any way but it’s victory?
Ok

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ougoah

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I don’t use Twitter, got any English articles or yt videos to recommend?

You don't need a twitter account to view. For example take a look at a few of these since late May. These include retired Indian Lieutenant General, former Indian army officers and various CREDIBLE and seemingly thoughtful individuals.

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duskseeker

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Just from the Pakistani Defence Forum confirming that the Indian border guards got their asses kicked in the battle of pangang lake or whatever that loser calls it.
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Mohsin77

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Since he keeps claiming victory I want to understand the reasoning.

Good question. Let's look at the news coverage in India to get a sense of what's driving their narrative.

The following TV anchor is the most popular (and highest paid) in India. Right before Ladakh flared up, he suggested that China engineered covid as a bio weapon. He then claims that China is incapable of winning wars. The title of the show was "India Leads Global Fight To Expose China."



And then after Ladakh, this is the view he is presenting regarding the military situation on the ground:


Note that he begins by claiming that India has won (ignoring all the evidence presented by credible analysts.) The most interesting thing is how he accuses all the Indians who disagree with this official narrative of being traitors (including the Congress party leadership.)

By the way, this is just the English language news. The Hindi language news is actually worse and more aggressive. For example, the claim that Pakistan is training locusts to infest Indian farms was made by this same anchor in the Hindi language version of his show.

So this is what the Indian population hears. It's not just this channel, there are multiple channels and most of them are pro-BJP these days. (e.g. India Today, Times Now etc.) Then you have most of their mainstream newspapers which are also pro-Modi. All of this combined means that Indians are exposed to something like Fox News on steroids. This is what fuels jingoism and mass hysteria, and this is how their domestic population can be made to believe things which everyone outside of India knows to be untrue.
 
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ougoah

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It's funny how India has in the past threatened Pakistan with fresh water access.

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Modi's quietly begging behind the scenes and more talks to be held on the 6th. India needs to be less Hindutva in the region for stability. Going down this path, we will eventually have war. Having looked around the net at Indian commentary it exposes their intellectual brevity. How can one find a solution to a problem they don't even understand. With India it's not even about understanding the problem at hand... they are not even aware there is a problem presented to them. Can't even make this up. Frankly I thought India was more competent than even this. Laughable but also pitiful if most of these Hindutva extremists weren't as bad as history's worst radicals. :confused:
 
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