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Faisal Iqbal

Faisal Iqbal

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15th August has come, it means happy Independence day to India, in 1947 after mellinium and quarter of foreign/minority rule, eventually India was ruled by the majority.

Muslim Rule = 712 to 1857 CE
British Rule = 1857 to 1947 CE

Dear members make no mistake, Its momentus event in world history.
 
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phrozenflame said:
I remember when I joined PDF, PAF had no BVRs facing several squadrons of Sukhois, JF-17 was lagging behind Tejas and even Bisons were better armed than F-16s. What a turn around in 2 decades with much smaller budget. The magnitude of InAF's ineptitude cannot be expressed in words. But the even the better news is, InAF learned no lessons and continues to thrive in lala land.
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And since then they received almost 1500 BVR missiles and have more AWACS flying around than their neighbor. A complete reversal of the situation from the turn of the century.
 
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Deino said:
I think you are correct!

I actually think that's the point, which then begs the question: Why is this?! We actually see it in so many – actually all – programs, and Tejas is perhaps just a media-friendly example that's in the spotlight... if you look at the list (no guarantee of completeness), the list seems endless:

- Tejas = neverending story
- Uttam Radar ... above all, lots of wild promises, but the reality is, even the IAF prefers an Israeli AESA
- Super-30 / MKI-PLUS: similar! Lots of announcements without real results
- Rafale-N + Vikrant/Vikramaditya: ... to date, NO concrete idea of how they are supposed to operate from the carriers, as the elevators and the lower deck are simply too small/shallow!
- MRCA ... as I said, we're exactly where we were in January 2012, namely when the recommendation was made to buy and build more Rafales.
- FGFA ... exit in 2018, and now the purchase of Su-57E is being discussed again.
- TEDBF ... will probably end as a Tejas 3.4-story!
- new AEW ... endless story, but at least the decision was made for an A320-based model, current planning in three years from 2025! (?)
- New tankers ... as often as now, repeated tenders always with the surprisingly same result: A330 MRTT ... still no decision
- HJT-36 Sitara/Yashas: first flight in 2003 ... now planned as Yashas in 2026 in the form of four leased aircraft, no IAF order yet
- HTT-40 ... not quite as long in development
- Question about new C-17s: The fact that this keeps popping up is surprising, even though everyone knows the production line is closed and dismantled
- And we don't even need to talk about engines like the Kaveri

... in fact it is not only a mess, it's pure embarrassment!
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Arjun tank must fit in here somewhere too!

Meanwhile:
India has issued a huuuuuuuuge NOTAM, prob some missile test thingy (jaihinds are saying its to show america we can reach Diego garcia ranges)
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1956031009641660678
 
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