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hullopilllw

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This is probably going to become the noisiest issue out of this Ladakh incident.

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China enjoys a huge trade surplus with India, partly because currently India makes nothing much of interest for anyone in the world and has a deficit with not just China. Take a look online and see for yourself.

If this becomes a growing and here to stay trend, it would deal more damage to China than any Indian weapon. Funny how the same side that claims victory and claims to have thoroughly embarrassed China is also acting like it's been wronged and humiliated. Anyway if this trend continues, India's domestic industry will eventually pick up the slack in time in the lower value end of the chain.

Indian industries are dependent on Chinede machineries to industrialise, while China is not really dependent on India as an export market.

India has got almost 3 decades to catch up to China, what makes you think they can be different now than then.
 

jfy1155

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The victory at Doklam that wasn’t

"Through its silence, India has acquiesced to China’s military occupation of the Doklam plateau, except of course at the face-off site where the status quo has been maintained. The Indian public has been misled and the media and political opposition have failed to bring out the truth."

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ougoah

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Tejas fly high and above.

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Look at the improvement in build quality.

With Elta 2052 AESA along with upcoming Uttam AESA and state of the art EW systems and low RCS.this little beast will be unmatched in subcontinent. a good stop gap until MWF and AMCA arrive in future.
I feel sorry for our enemies.after Inducting so many chinese JF BLK 1,2 and now 3.... they still can't match Tejas MK1 in capability. Look like Tejas with its superior radar, sensors ,EW system and pilot will be a nightmare to our adversaries. even f 16 BLK 52 will have hard time facing and surviving AESA equipped Tejas.
I hope Tejas don't take all the glory of spanking enemy during next air battle and left some glory for MIG 21, MIG 29UPG , mirage 2000UPG, SU 30 and other.

The surface finish is indeed quite impressive and as neat as the best 4.5 gen fighters. Tejas has not fielded Uttam yet. There's no real indication it will be flying with Uttam even when block 3 JF-17 flies with AESA. Uttam is India's first and only airborne AESA... which is still in development. So your words are a bit arrogant here. Let's wait until it receives it and then wait until it shoots something. PAF is waiting for your adventurism. I would suggest you gloat after IAF achieves something.
 

ougoah

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Indian industries are dependent on Chinede machineries to industrialise, while China is not really dependent on India as an export market.

India has got almost 3 decades to catch up to China, what makes you think they can be different now than then.

In terms of industrialising and social development they are about 50 years behind China because they will need to totally overhaul their entire political structure first before any real progress can even be made. I recall China in the 70s being FAR better off than India today outside the shiniest of Mumbai. Most Indians still have their heads in the sand about their real situation and the rest are either in denial, suppressed, or kept ignorant by their pathetically obvious lying media (how many times its delivered contradicting information and flip flopped?)... but losing 3% income is a huge deal for any economy.

I'm not saying India will stop all purchases overnight and not even a fraction of that. I realise how impossible it is to upset supply chains without giving it decades to adjust and for domestic industries to catch up. But I am saying the most dangerous tool India wields now is that measly fraction of a 3%... which to use, they will need to suffer in the short term as well. That's as threatening as India is to China... a fraction of a portion of 3% worth of trade that the majority of Indian civilians and businesses almost DEPEND on for daily living and business function. Basically it is to say it is nothing and they can't/won't do it because they'll shoot themselves in the foot in order to take a few million in losses from Chinese businesses. It's a challenge to them and will eventually cause civil fighting as bhakt Indians beat up Indians who continue to buy or import Chinese.

But if they get their act together and their government really makes changes to facilitate realising this eventual goal, they will get there in time. How long it takes is up to them. I expect a lot of blah blah blah since Indians are known for bragging and talking while sitting on their hands. Take a look around the internet and it is self-evident what many are like.
 

berserk

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@berserk

UTTAM is an interesting project because it's been under development for some time, although I have yet to see any photographs that indicate airborne testing has occurred (nose cone photo on some test-bed aircraft etc).
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many test have happened so far. Tejas problem is no more hardware but software now hence the delay.
. This may be the best example of an Indian attempt at a local AESA system that could see actual manufacture and deployment at some real scale, but I do believe it is largely based on existing Indian exposure to Israeli electronics (fair enough, start somewhere) and is still a ways off.
Yes. Israeli technology and help probably played a huge role. let's give credit where's due. some of the manufacturing processes are trade secret. I am sure Israeli squeezed a lot out of India for know how. But this TOT is a very vague term thrown out left right and center. nobody give you full or actual Technology ever.
 

berserk

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Border situation on LAC is tense. This betrayal under a pandemic in garb of an exercise won't go unpunished. storm is brewing for something big.
 

ougoah

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many test have happened so far. Tejas problem is no more hardware but software now hence the delay.

Yes. Israeli technology and help probably played a huge role. let's give credit where's due. some of the manufacturing processes are trade secret. I am sure Israeli squeezed a lot out of India for know how. But this TOT is a very vague term thrown out left right and center. nobody give you full or actual Technology ever.

Quite true. At long last a sensible post without involving some slandering for JF-17 or the usual victims. If only this thread can stay this way without having to badmouth China, Pakistan, or whatever Chinese/Pakistani military equipment.
 

ougoah

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Border situation on LAC is tense. This betrayal under a pandemic in garb of an exercise won't go unpunished. storm is brewing for something big.

Quite doubtful there'll be any storms. Modi doesn't seem to have the will for a fight and so far based on reasonable and reputable Indian commentators, it appears that China has been doing the adventurism into disputed areas. Modi's got a lot on his plate now and recently Moody's just cut India's credit rating to BAA3 - a moderate credit risk. But then again perhaps a war is exactly what India should be doing.

I can't exactly make sense of China's offensive here this month. Is it in response to India joining the "quad alliance"? or India's move made on Kashmir from last year?
 
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