The domestic one? I am not sure whether construction is complete.
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The domestic one? I am not sure whether construction is complete.
completion of all activities is likely to be achieved only by 2023
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>> Indian ship sinks in Indian ocean, Sri Lankan Navy rescues crew . . .
COLOMBO: Sri Lanka’s navy on Saturday rescued all seven Indian crew onboard a Maldives-bound Indian ship that sank off the island’s southern coast and arranged for their repatriation home.
The navy said it responded to a distress call relayed by Maldivian authorities after the vessel took in water and began to sink due to a mechanical fault 68 nautical miles (125 kilometres) off Sri Lanka’s southern port of Galle.
“All seven Indian sailors are in good health and arrangements have been made to hand them over to the Indian High Commission in Sri Lanka for repatriation,” the navy said in a statement.
The statement said the vessel was on its way to the Maldives but it was not immediately clear what cargo it had on board.
COLOMBO: Sri Lanka’s navy on Saturday rescued all seven Indian crew onboard a Maldives-bound Indian ship that sank off the island’s southern coast and arranged for their repatriation home.
The navy said it responded to a distress call relayed by Maldivian authorities after the vessel took in water and began to sink due to a mechanical fault 68 nautical miles (125 kilometres) off Sri Lanka’s southern port of Galle.
“All seven Indian sailors are in good health and arrangements have been made to hand them over to the Indian High Commission in Sri Lanka for repatriation,” the navy said in a statement.
The statement said the vessel was on its way to the Maldives but it was not immediately clear what cargo it had on board.
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INDIAN AIR FORCE REPORTEDLY NOT KEEN ON PAK-FA
The Indian Air Force (IAF) is reportedly urging New Delhi to withdraw from the PAK-FA – also designated Su-57 and Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) – next-generation fighter program, which is being developed in collaboration between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and Sukhoi.
A senior IAF official told that the “IAF is not keen to continue with the program.” Some of the IAF’s concerns with the PAK-FA reportedly include insufficient reduction in radar cross-section (RCS), especially in comparison to the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
The PAK-FA is a collaborative effort between Russia’s various design bureaus, but spearheaded by Sukhoi, which saw relatively strong export success with its Su-30 Flanker-line in the 1990s and 2000s.
India was envisaged as the launch overseas customer of the PAK-FA/FGFA. However, the development of the PAK-FA has been tumultuous, namely in regards to Russia’s ability to demonstrate that it can produce the requisite technologies for 5th-generation fighters, such as electronic subsystems.
In July, IHS Jane’s reported that the Russian Aerospace Force (VKS) itself was uninterested in inducting the Su-57. The VKS is reportedly satisfied with the Su-35 Flanker-E. Furthermore, the IAF had received limited assurance from United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) in regards to requested design changes.
There were also concerns regarding the PAK-FA’s next-generation turbofan engine, Project 30, which is to be 30% lighter than the AL-41F1 and more fuel efficient. Currently, the PAK-FA prototypes are flying with the AL-41F1. It is unclear when Project 30 will come to fruition.
The IAF could still be reeling from the of its Su-30MKI fleet in the early-to-mid 2010s. Issues with the Su-30MKI’s powerplant and insufficient in-house maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) capabilities, mainly due to insufficient access to timely spare parts from Russia, had caused the IAF Su-30MKI fleet’s operational availability rate to drop to less than 60% in 2015.
Though the two sides principally agreed to transfer the production of Su-30MKI spare parts to India, there have been snags in the implementation of the agreement. The Indian Ministry of Defence stated that UAC was reluctant to transfer the requisite technology to India’s private sector ().
HAL is confident that the FGFA will succeed, arguing that the depth of technology-transfer being offered to India under the PAK-FA is not available elsewhere.
“We are still hopeful. It is an opportunity for the industry as well as for the country. This is an opportunity for us to go in for this kind of (high) technology which has not been offered to us by any other country,” said HAL Chairman and Managing Director T Suvarna Raju to the .
The IAF Vice Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Shirish Baban Deo echoed the HAL Chairman’s sentiments, “When it comes to technology transfer, Russia really offers everything they have from the heart without any strings attached.”
Notes & Comments:
India’s pursuit of an original 5th-generation fighter will be a long-term endeavour, even if India continues with the FGFA/PAK-FA. There an expedient avenue in requesting the F-35 from the U.S., though this will likely bar India from immediately accessing the Lightning II’s technologies. However, the F-35 would offer that substantive qualitative gain and next-generation airpower capability sooner than the FGFA. India can also look at tying the F-35 to technical support to the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).
The other aspect to consider is the Rafale. In August, the IAF pushed for an additional 36 Rafales to augment the 36 currently on order. If the Su-30MKI fleet’s efficacy is in question (due to supply channel challenges with Russia), then it could be prudent to expand the Rafale fleet and fully capitalize upon its forthcoming qualitative gains, such as its long-range AESA radar, long-range air-to-air, stand-off strike capabilities and 75%+ guaranteed (by Dassault) operational rate. This can be had sooner than the FGFA.
It should be noted that the PAK-FA falling through does not necessitate an end to joint Indo-Russian work on a next-generation fighter. The IAF’s concerns could be simply be in regards to the PAK-FA specifically, though it is possible that Russian design and development assistance can still be sought for a new design. Both HAL and the IAF are of the view that in terms of next-generation technology development, India will not access more elsewhere than it would in Russia.
The Indian Air Force (IAF) is reportedly urging New Delhi to withdraw from the PAK-FA – also designated Su-57 and Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) – next-generation fighter program, which is being developed in collaboration between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and Sukhoi.
A senior IAF official told that the “IAF is not keen to continue with the program.” Some of the IAF’s concerns with the PAK-FA reportedly include insufficient reduction in radar cross-section (RCS), especially in comparison to the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
The PAK-FA is a collaborative effort between Russia’s various design bureaus, but spearheaded by Sukhoi, which saw relatively strong export success with its Su-30 Flanker-line in the 1990s and 2000s.
India was envisaged as the launch overseas customer of the PAK-FA/FGFA. However, the development of the PAK-FA has been tumultuous, namely in regards to Russia’s ability to demonstrate that it can produce the requisite technologies for 5th-generation fighters, such as electronic subsystems.
In July, IHS Jane’s reported that the Russian Aerospace Force (VKS) itself was uninterested in inducting the Su-57. The VKS is reportedly satisfied with the Su-35 Flanker-E. Furthermore, the IAF had received limited assurance from United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) in regards to requested design changes.
There were also concerns regarding the PAK-FA’s next-generation turbofan engine, Project 30, which is to be 30% lighter than the AL-41F1 and more fuel efficient. Currently, the PAK-FA prototypes are flying with the AL-41F1. It is unclear when Project 30 will come to fruition.
The IAF could still be reeling from the of its Su-30MKI fleet in the early-to-mid 2010s. Issues with the Su-30MKI’s powerplant and insufficient in-house maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) capabilities, mainly due to insufficient access to timely spare parts from Russia, had caused the IAF Su-30MKI fleet’s operational availability rate to drop to less than 60% in 2015.
Though the two sides principally agreed to transfer the production of Su-30MKI spare parts to India, there have been snags in the implementation of the agreement. The Indian Ministry of Defence stated that UAC was reluctant to transfer the requisite technology to India’s private sector ().
HAL is confident that the FGFA will succeed, arguing that the depth of technology-transfer being offered to India under the PAK-FA is not available elsewhere.
“We are still hopeful. It is an opportunity for the industry as well as for the country. This is an opportunity for us to go in for this kind of (high) technology which has not been offered to us by any other country,” said HAL Chairman and Managing Director T Suvarna Raju to the .
The IAF Vice Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Shirish Baban Deo echoed the HAL Chairman’s sentiments, “When it comes to technology transfer, Russia really offers everything they have from the heart without any strings attached.”
Notes & Comments:
India’s pursuit of an original 5th-generation fighter will be a long-term endeavour, even if India continues with the FGFA/PAK-FA. There an expedient avenue in requesting the F-35 from the U.S., though this will likely bar India from immediately accessing the Lightning II’s technologies. However, the F-35 would offer that substantive qualitative gain and next-generation airpower capability sooner than the FGFA. India can also look at tying the F-35 to technical support to the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).
The other aspect to consider is the Rafale. In August, the IAF pushed for an additional 36 Rafales to augment the 36 currently on order. If the Su-30MKI fleet’s efficacy is in question (due to supply channel challenges with Russia), then it could be prudent to expand the Rafale fleet and fully capitalize upon its forthcoming qualitative gains, such as its long-range AESA radar, long-range air-to-air, stand-off strike capabilities and 75%+ guaranteed (by Dassault) operational rate. This can be had sooner than the FGFA.
It should be noted that the PAK-FA falling through does not necessitate an end to joint Indo-Russian work on a next-generation fighter. The IAF’s concerns could be simply be in regards to the PAK-FA specifically, though it is possible that Russian design and development assistance can still be sought for a new design. Both HAL and the IAF are of the view that in terms of next-generation technology development, India will not access more elsewhere than it would in Russia.
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HAL WILL SOURCE 70% OF TEJAS PRODUCTION WORK TO INDIAN PRIVATE SECTOR
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will outsource approximately 70% of the Tejas multi-role fighter’s production work to the Indian private sector, the reports.
The move is being taken to accelerate the output of Tejas fighters. HAL currently produces eight aircraft annually, though it is intending to increase its output to 16 by 2019.
“With increased level of outsourcing and capacity within HAL, we will be able to speed up the deliveries to cater to the present and future requirements of our customers,” said a HAL official.
In a statement to the Times of India, a senior official of the Tejas program said, “Major sub-assemblies such as front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage, wings et al, have been outsourced to private industry. The orders have been placed and they need about an year to supply these.”
In turn, 85 private companies will be supporting the Tejas supply chain, with the leading firms being Dynamic Technologies Ltd. for the front fuselage; VEM Technologies for the centre fuselage; Alpha Tocol for the rear fuselage; Larsen and Toubro for the wings; and National Aerospace Laboratory and Tata Advanced Materials Limited for the tail fin and rudder.
The Indian Air Force (IAF) assigned its Tejas aircraft to No. 45 squadron Flying Daggers in 2016, which is currently five fighters, which it hopes to grow to 11 by March 2018.
Notes & Comments:
The outsourcing policy will enable HAL to benefit from the efficiencies of the Indian private sector, which has grown (in part) as a result of subassemblies manufacturing for overseas aviation vendors, among them Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Like the Tejas, the serial production of HAL’s Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) will also transition to private sector outsourcing. Coupled with forthcoming acquisitions made under the policy, such as the of more than 230 naval helicopters, the Indian private sector is both slotted for growth and to form an integral piece of India’s defence sourcing.
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will outsource approximately 70% of the Tejas multi-role fighter’s production work to the Indian private sector, the reports.
The move is being taken to accelerate the output of Tejas fighters. HAL currently produces eight aircraft annually, though it is intending to increase its output to 16 by 2019.
“With increased level of outsourcing and capacity within HAL, we will be able to speed up the deliveries to cater to the present and future requirements of our customers,” said a HAL official.
In a statement to the Times of India, a senior official of the Tejas program said, “Major sub-assemblies such as front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage, wings et al, have been outsourced to private industry. The orders have been placed and they need about an year to supply these.”
In turn, 85 private companies will be supporting the Tejas supply chain, with the leading firms being Dynamic Technologies Ltd. for the front fuselage; VEM Technologies for the centre fuselage; Alpha Tocol for the rear fuselage; Larsen and Toubro for the wings; and National Aerospace Laboratory and Tata Advanced Materials Limited for the tail fin and rudder.
The Indian Air Force (IAF) assigned its Tejas aircraft to No. 45 squadron Flying Daggers in 2016, which is currently five fighters, which it hopes to grow to 11 by March 2018.
Notes & Comments:
The outsourcing policy will enable HAL to benefit from the efficiencies of the Indian private sector, which has grown (in part) as a result of subassemblies manufacturing for overseas aviation vendors, among them Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Like the Tejas, the serial production of HAL’s Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) will also transition to private sector outsourcing. Coupled with forthcoming acquisitions made under the policy, such as the of more than 230 naval helicopters, the Indian private sector is both slotted for growth and to form an integral piece of India’s defence sourcing.
INDIAN AIR FORCE REPORTEDLY NOT KEEN ON PAK-FA
The Indian Air Force (IAF) is reportedly urging New Delhi to withdraw from the PAK-FA – also designated Su-57 and Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) – next-generation fighter program, which is being developed in collaboration between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and Sukhoi.
A senior IAF official told that the “IAF is not keen to continue with the program.” Some of the IAF’s concerns with the PAK-FA reportedly include insufficient reduction in radar cross-section (RCS), especially in comparison to the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
The PAK-FA is a collaborative effort between Russia’s various design bureaus, but spearheaded by Sukhoi, which saw relatively strong export success with its Su-30 Flanker-line in the 1990s and 2000s.
India was envisaged as the launch overseas customer of the PAK-FA/FGFA. However, the development of the PAK-FA has been tumultuous, namely in regards to Russia’s ability to demonstrate that it can produce the requisite technologies for 5th-generation fighters, such as electronic subsystems.
In July, IHS Jane’s reported that the Russian Aerospace Force (VKS) itself was uninterested in inducting the Su-57. The VKS is reportedly satisfied with the Su-35 Flanker-E. Furthermore, the IAF had received limited assurance from United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) in regards to requested design changes.
There were also concerns regarding the PAK-FA’s next-generation turbofan engine, Project 30, which is to be 30% lighter than the AL-41F1 and more fuel efficient. Currently, the PAK-FA prototypes are flying with the AL-41F1. It is unclear when Project 30 will come to fruition.
The IAF could still be reeling from the of its Su-30MKI fleet in the early-to-mid 2010s. Issues with the Su-30MKI’s powerplant and insufficient in-house maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) capabilities, mainly due to insufficient access to timely spare parts from Russia, had caused the IAF Su-30MKI fleet’s operational availability rate to drop to less than 60% in 2015.
Though the two sides principally agreed to transfer the production of Su-30MKI spare parts to India, there have been snags in the implementation of the agreement. The Indian Ministry of Defence stated that UAC was reluctant to transfer the requisite technology to India’s private sector ().
HAL is confident that the FGFA will succeed, arguing that the depth of technology-transfer being offered to India under the PAK-FA is not available elsewhere.
“We are still hopeful. It is an opportunity for the industry as well as for the country. This is an opportunity for us to go in for this kind of (high) technology which has not been offered to us by any other country,” said HAL Chairman and Managing Director T Suvarna Raju to the .
The IAF Vice Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Shirish Baban Deo echoed the HAL Chairman’s sentiments, “When it comes to technology transfer, Russia really offers everything they have from the heart without any strings attached.”
Notes & Comments:
India’s pursuit of an original 5th-generation fighter will be a long-term endeavour, even if India continues with the FGFA/PAK-FA. There an expedient avenue in requesting the F-35 from the U.S., though this will likely bar India from immediately accessing the Lightning II’s technologies. However, the F-35 would offer that substantive qualitative gain and next-generation airpower capability sooner than the FGFA. India can also look at tying the F-35 to technical support to the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).
The other aspect to consider is the Rafale. In August, the IAF pushed for an additional 36 Rafales to augment the 36 currently on order. If the Su-30MKI fleet’s efficacy is in question (due to supply channel challenges with Russia), then it could be prudent to expand the Rafale fleet and fully capitalize upon its forthcoming qualitative gains, such as its long-range AESA radar, long-range air-to-air, stand-off strike capabilities and 75%+ guaranteed (by Dassault) operational rate. This can be had sooner than the FGFA.
It should be noted that the PAK-FA falling through does not necessitate an end to joint Indo-Russian work on a next-generation fighter. The IAF’s concerns could be simply be in regards to the PAK-FA specifically, though it is possible that Russian design and development assistance can still be sought for a new design. Both HAL and the IAF are of the view that in terms of next-generation technology development, India will not access more elsewhere than it would in Russia.
What all of us who have our heads above the sand have guessed for a long time. Su-57 is barely a LO Su-35 with very limited missile capacity for slight LO advantage. HAL of course still wants to get their hands on it. Domestic project in LCA is spectacular failure that even Indians are starting to admit to. Maybe one day they'll realise the truth and see the world as how it is. FGFA must therefore still represent a welcome in technology. Indian GDP in nominal and per capita terms are too small. Even smaller (per capita) than majority of sub-Saharan Africa (this is the reality of this country - delusion of grandeur only makes it worse) so they cannot afford F-35 in meaningful numbers. This is pretty much also true for Rafale. If J-31 is ever worked on until it is brought into service in either PLAAF, PLAN, or Pakistani Airforce, India will have nothing to counter it. Of course they'll prefer to bury their heads further by responding with wonderfully insightful statements such as; "China's GDP numbers are fake", "China is built on lies, stealing technology, and copying", "AMCA will be ready and easily defeat Jxx", "Tejas is actually awesome" .... the nonsense will go on and India slumps further backwards. I'm loving it. Poetic justice for these fools at the finest. Keep calling us "gooks" in your forums all you want. We'll soon be wearing it with pride while you do your business on and in your ever more disgusting streets and rivers.
