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Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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aksha said:
India delays induction of first Scorpene submarine

It was originally scheduled for delivery in December 2012.
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So...what is the new date?

Honestly...it has gotten to the point with Indian procurement that when they give you the first date...you must add at least five years to it in order to (in the vast majority of cases) determine when the actual date will be.

aksha said:
India Considering Russian Shipyard for Construction of Advanced Warship
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These will then be Advanced Talwars?

Those are decent vessels and four more will certainly not hurt.

However, with the Shivaliks and the follow-on to it...and with the new Kamorta Corvettes (which are really Frigate-sized), I thought India was well on its way to building all of its vessels indigenously.

I guess the Indian Navy has the money to spend and does not want to wait.

Apparently with all of the other builds (including Coast Guard builds) the Indian shipyards are chock full.
 
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A Bar Brother

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Jeff Head said:
So...what is the new date?
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The same as before, 2015 sea trials, 2016 commission. The MoD was asked a question by other Parliament members about the Scorpene's original 2012 schedule to which Parrikar said the program was delayed. Nothing about new delays.

These will then be Advanced Talwars?
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Yes.

However, with the Shivaliks and the follow-on to it...and with the new Kamorta Corvettes (which are really Frigate-sized), I thought India was well on its way to building all of its vessels indigenously.
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The Indian shipyards are unable to meet the demands of the IN. Ships are being phased out faster than they are being inducted.

Even if our shipyards are constructing most of our requirements, they are slow because they are experimenting with new construction technologies and that's expected to change with the new P-15B and P-17A projects. The long leads to commissioning will be 60 months for the P-17A and 72 months for the P-15B.

Another objective is to reduce crew by half on all capital ships, bring it on par with NATO. For example, the Shivalik has 257, the navy wants 150 on the P-17A. I believe they want 200 on the P-15B down from the 325 on the Kolkata.
 
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antiterror13

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Is there any independent party (e.g. the US or UK) has confirmed that India has a H-Bomb?
I know India has claimed it has successfully tested H-Bomb (Smiling Buddha), but there was a doubt of the yield was too low for H-bomb
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Does India have the technology and capability to miniaturise a nuke , small enough for a missile (e.g. similar to W87 or W88) ?

No flame please, I am really confused

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A Bar Brother

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antiterror13 said:
Is there any independent party (e.g. the US or UK) has confirmed that India has a H-Bomb?
I know India has claimed it has successfully tested H-Bomb (Smiling Buddha), but there was a doubt of the yield was too low for H-bomb
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Does India have the technology and capability to miniaturise a nuke , small enough for a missile (e.g. similar to W87 or W88) ?

No flame please, I am really confused

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Though it is disputed, officially it was a H-bomb. The nature and type of warheads are unknown.
 
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Brumby said:
It also demonstrates that you ultimately get what you paid for. Russian products might seem cheap comparatively on up front costs but once you factor in running and maintenance cost there is a different story to it.
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The cost of maintaining the Mirage-2000 during the period 2012-13 was Rs 486.85 Crores ($79 Million) for 50 aircraft. That's roughly $1.58 Million per aircraft.

The cost of maintaining the Su-30MKI during the period 2012-13 was Rs 877.84 Crores ($142 Million) for ~180 aircraft. That's roughly $0.8 Million per aircraft.

The equivalent figures for the Mig-29 isn't available.

The cost of a F414 engine for the LCA is more than $8 Million for each engine, including assembly and related costs. The cost of a RD-33 Series 3 engine is $2.5 Million for each engine, including assembly and related costs. Both RD-33 Series 3 and F414 are advertised to have 4000 hours TTL.
 
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thunderchief

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Brumby said:
It also demonstrates that you ultimately get what you paid for. Russian products might seem cheap comparatively on up front costs but once you factor in running and maintenance cost there is a different story to it.
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Well, not exactly. Poor countries usually don't buy Western equipment, and one of the reasons is because spare parts, weapons, axillary equipment and especially overhauls , cost much more in the West then in Russia or China . One of the examples was cost for Mirage-2000 upgrade compared to the cost of Mig-29 upgrade that India payed for its airforce .
 
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aksha

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Indian Army to receive Dhanush howitzers by end of year

India's new domestically manufactured 155mm artillery howitzer, Dhanush, is expected to be ready for use by the national army by the end of the year.

A derivative of the Bofors 155mm gun, Dhanush is scheduled to undergo summer trials in the deserts of Rajasthan, India, to confirm its accuracy, range and rate of fire.

Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) chairman MC Bansal said: "We have put together a special project team to look into different aspects of the product, including the cradle, barrel and the hydraulic and electrical systems.

"Once the last round of trials is complete, we will supply the guns to the forces by this year-end."

The howitzer had recently cleared the winter trials at a military range in Sikkim, India.

Following the completion of extensive trials, the 155mm, 45 calibre Dhanush would enter mass production at the Gun Carriage Factory in Jabalpur district of Madhya Pradesh in central India.

Equipped with computerised fire control system, the howitzer can fire eight rounds per minutes up to 38km in the plains, while the original Bofors gun has a maximum effective range of 27km.

The Indian Army has placed an order for a total of 114 guns, whose prototype was also displayed at Defexpo 2014 in New Delhi last month .

OFB said that the work on the second Dhanush version is also under way. The sub-systems are being developed and, once this gun fires successf
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Brumby

Brumby

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thunderchief said:
Well, not exactly. Poor countries usually don't buy Western equipment, and one of the reasons is because spare parts, weapons, axillary equipment and especially overhauls , cost much more in the West then in Russia or China . One of the examples was cost for Mirage-2000 upgrade compared to the cost of Mig-29 upgrade that India payed for its airforce .
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You are right that the cost of Russian equipment is cheaper comparatively and that includes spare parts. The point was that quality, maintenance and downtime issues will eat into that differential but admittedly will be insufficient to fully compensate because you are working off a much lower base structure.
 
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aksha

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India To Exercise Options For 38 More Pilatus Trainers

The Indian Ministry of Defence has just approved the Indian Air Force's move to exercise options on its
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(for 75 aircraft) with Pilatus Aircraft and will shortly sign up for 38 more. Of a total of 181 basic trainers the IAF has said it needs, the original Pilatus PC-7 Mk.2 order takes care of 75 aircraft.

The remaining 106 aircraft were to be HAL's in-development
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that's all set to take-off for the first time this month. With the IAF approved to exercise options on 38 more PC-7s, HAL's platform will meet the remaining requirement: 68 aircraft. Indications are, however, that that number will be cranked up to make the project more viable in the near term.

An IAF-HAL-MoD committee is being set up to monitor the HTT-40 programme. The HTT-40 prototype is all set for its first flight in June.
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