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Anhad said:

Do you really think the company that wins this maintenance contract won't know if one or more Rafales are missing? The contractor will have to maintain the fleet it is being paid to support. If some Rafales had actually been destroyed, that would become immediately apparent during contract execution. It's not something that can simply be concealed from the company responsible for maintaining the aircraft.

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It's not in the contractor's interest to publicly reveal the loss of it's flagship product, as it can curtail it's sales prospects. This is not rocket science.

Dassault normally packages its Rafales in batches (or multiples) of 6; NATO Tactile Flight unit is 6 aircraft (4 operational + 2 spare/conversion). Almost all the Rafale operators have a fleet of such: 12, 24, 36, 42, 54, ... There is no order for 33, 34, or 35 units.

And most importantly, the PBL agreement IAF signed with Dassault and Safran in 2016 involved future maintenance tenders for exactly 36 Rafales. So, unless you can find a clause in that agreement which allows IAF to request another number, the IAF is legally bound to honor the agreement for exactly 36 aircraft, even if it lost half of it's fleet.

Anhad said:

The statements made by Subramanian Swamy in his personal capacity are irrelevant here. What matters is the official Government of India tender seeking maintenance support for all 36 Rafale fighters. The company awarded the contract will maintain the entire fleet and will be paid millions of dollars over each aircraft's service life. To execute the contract, the contractor will have access to all 36 Rafales, including their manufacturing dates, induction dates, flight hours, and serial numbers. If the official tender specifies 36 Rafales, then it means 36 Rafales. There is no room for speculation or doubt about the number mentioned in an official government document.

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vincent said:

Where is the recent pics of BS-001?

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That's because India bought another 114 Rafales and either out of those 114 are the replacements for the lost/damaged Rafales (somewhere between 1 to 4) or the replacement Rafales are purchased outside of these 114 new ones.

They will 100% paint replacements as BS-001 and the other three BS-xxx that Pakistan have officially said are shot down.

The reason India has been using old footage (by India's own admission) for BS-001 is because BS-001 is shot down and until India receives replacement Rafales for the ones shot down, we won't see new photos or videos of BS-001 and the others. But as soon as India repaints them, they will show them and Indians will believe they were never shot down. Such is India.








There were dozens of unique videos and photos circulating online before India cracked down with internet censorship which is ALWAYS does during conflicts. Just like Israel.

Here is one surviving video:

Apologies for the multiple posts but Sinodefenceforum just absolutely sucks with how much bandwidth provided

Another video:

The company for the tender simply signs an NDA.

That's all. Very simple and basic and yet bhakts don't want to believe it. Again who cares though lol. It's their fighter and their money blown on a fighter that is unable to even gain air superiority over Pakistan.

IAF is not 10% the strength of PLAAF and PLAAF is getting better by the day while India waits for 114 more Rafales.

By the time 114 Rafales reach IAF service, more than 1000 J-20s are going to be in PLAAF service and India would have only just reached less than 40% PLAAF J-10C numbers that PLAAF have today.

India went from claiming that Su-30MKI can beat J-20 to Indian Rafales being shot down by Pakistani operated export J-10. A J-10 is not 10% the capability of J-20 and I think PLAAF exchange rate for J-20 is over 20x J-10s.

BTW Su-30MKI was also shot down by J-10CE. Pictures and videos again available and traced to Su-30MKI identified by wreckage parts. Same goes for Mig-29 and Mirage 2000.

vincent said:

Where is the recent pics of BS-001?

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There is also BS021, BS022, and BS027 that were claimed as shot down.

Anhad said:

Do you really think the company that wins this maintenance contract won't know if one or more Rafales are missing? The contractor will have to maintain the fleet it is being paid to support. If some Rafales had actually been destroyed, that would become immediately apparent during contract execution. It's not something that can simply be concealed from the company responsible for maintaining the aircraft.

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So what you're saying is Dassault, the people who make the damn planes, must be lying when they said rafales were shot down

Dassault said one was shot down and then buried the statement a few weeks after presumably because India and France + Dassault discussed how to handle what they consider an embarrassment.

To be honest, losses in war is suffered by everyone. India is the only one that loves presenting to the world this image of invisibility which they keep promoting themselves with self appointed rankings on military firepower and other such pointless nonsense.

In a war, PLA would absolutely annihilate the Indians regardless of how much PR the Indian government and media does with their 1 billion strong bhakt online bots.

The reality is India is the one making all the noise and propaganda. It's obvious from what people say online and how many Indians wage false flags from the exposed white nationalists on twitter who were shown to be indian to the mind games they play while calling themselves "John Smith", sometimes from Microsoft, sometimes just youtube/social media name.

It's clear all the online propaganda is Indian just based on how pro India they are and it's clear China doesn't engage in this field outside of Chinese diaspora with a sense of loyalty to defend themselves. China gets constantly shat on while India used to be glazed. Now India is shat on by westerners too because 1. falling out in relations since 2022 and 2. westerners have grown weary of Indian online propaganda and migration and most western travelers to India have noticed all the Indian online bullshit.

That's because India bought another 114 Rafales and either out of those 114 are the replacements for the lost/damaged Rafales (somewhere between 1 to 4) or the replacement Rafales are purchased outside of these 114 new ones.

They will 100% paint replacements as BS-001 and the other three BS-xxx that Pakistan have officially said are shot down.

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I don't doubt for a second that this is what they'll do or already done. A practice i long suspect the israelis and americans as well of doing in respect to at least some combat losses. Perhaps that's what all this hoohah around this supposed mega-contract for 114 Rafales is about, slipping in replacement airframes for the lost ones.