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Anhad

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I don’t understand why you insist on using this tender figure as evidence of your claim. Tender figures is nothing more than a guide figure.

Use other procurement tenders as examples, rafale’s originally procurement tender, which was for 126 aircraft, did that tender figure mean India now has 126 rafales, no, right?

The same applies here, they say 36 but the actual number of aircraft that is actually supported could be lower. The tender figure is just a number, that’s all it is.
Do you really think the company that wins this maintenance contract won't know if one or more Rafales are missing? The contractor will have to maintain the fleet it is being paid to support. If some Rafales had actually been destroyed, that would become immediately apparent during contract execution. It's not something that can simply be concealed from the company responsible for maintaining the aircraft.
 

Black Wolf

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@Anhad ....

Since your joining this forum (recently), at least judging by your posting history, you've consistently pushed the narrative that India emerged from last year's clashes with Pakistan largely unscathed, while Pakistan was the side that supposedly took the hammering.

What you may be overlooking is that many members here have followed the conflict closely & are well aware of what transpired during those 4–5 days. If you haven't already, I'd suggest revisiting the "The Kashmir Conflict 2025" thread, where the subject has been discussed in considerable detail.

Several members have already tried to explain why many do not share your interpretation of events. Yet you continue returning with the same chest-thumping arguments, presenting your version as though it is the only reasonable conclusion & expecting others to simply accept that Pakistan was decisively beaten while India escaped without meaningful losses.

The reality is that this forum has debated the issue extensively & many informed members have reached very different conclusions based on the information available. Repeating the same assertion doesn't make it any more convincing.
 

Mt1701d

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Do you really think the company that wins this maintenance contract won't know if one or more Rafales are missing? The contractor will have to maintain the fleet it is being paid to support. If some Rafales had actually been destroyed, that would become immediately apparent during contract execution. It's not something that can simply be concealed from the company responsible for maintaining the aircraft.
First of all, this is a tender, meaning no actual contract has been signed or negotiated, in fact no known bids has even been made yet.

So your entire position is ridiculous. And yes it can be. Because the actual maintenance doesn’t take place all at once, they rotate, and the actual number of aircrafts to be maintained is not set yet, because the contract hasn’t even been signed.

There are also possible ceiling and floor to the numbers. Ceiling being the max number of aircraft and floor being the minimum guarantee. These numbers don’t have to be the same, and is sometimes conditional on the reality of the situation.

For the sake of argument, if an aircraft to be maintained crashed during the contract period, the gov would not be billed for work that will not be done. Meaning the conditions has changed and your insistence that the gov will somehow be paying for all 36 aircraft regardless suddenly doesn’t make sense anymore, no?
 
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sequ

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So the engine fell off, but the rest of the aircraft just kept flying?

And that's only one engine. Rafale is a twin-engine fighter jet where's the second engine? Where's the rest of the aircraft? And where are the pilots?

Rafael confirmed for having a "Parts-Shedding-System" triggered by "Muh SPECTRA"

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Black Wolf

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Seriously guys, why do you waste your time entertaining this kind of pathetic trolling for the last few pages?

I tried to explain him in below message but seems its a hopeless case.


@Anhad ....

Since your joining this forum (recently), at least judging by your posting history, you've consistently pushed the narrative that India emerged from last year's clashes with Pakistan largely unscathed, while Pakistan was the side that supposedly took the hammering.

What you may be overlooking is that many members here have followed the conflict closely & are well aware of what transpired during those 4–5 days. If you haven't already, I'd suggest revisiting the "The Kashmir Conflict 2025" thread, where the subject has been discussed in considerable detail.

Several members have already tried to explain why many do not share your interpretation of events. Yet you continue returning with the same chest-thumping arguments, presenting your version as though it is the only reasonable conclusion & expecting others to simply accept that Pakistan was decisively beaten while India escaped without meaningful losses.

The reality is that this forum has debated the issue extensively & many informed members have reached very different conclusions based on the information available. Repeating the same assertion doesn't make it any more convincing.
 

Anhad

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Seriously guys, why do you waste your time entertaining this kind of pathetic trolling for the last few pages?
You think an image of what is supposedly an M88 engine lying neatly on the ground, with grass around it showing no visible signs of burning, without the rest of the fuselage anywhere to be seen, or a supposed Rafale tail fin with "BS-001" clearly visible lying by itself on the ground with no other aircraft debris around it, is conclusive evidence that Rafale BS-001 was shot down?
 
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