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asif iqbal
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Re: Indian Arihant Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines
still looks over-weight and probably underpowered, why make a version 2 when the first one was rejected by the Indian Army itself?
Arjun cant be airlifted, the Indian army does not have the bridges to help it cross rivers, its heavy on fuel and underpowered, hence there is no way it can be used by the Indian army for a armoured thrust, hence the T-90 order
Al-Khalid in desert trials scored 95% hit rate on moving targets while moving itself from over 1.5-2km away, it is light and fast, its designed for desert and its capability has been seen by many foreign military delegations which operate M1s and Leopards, they all said Al Khalid is very versatile tank (Turkey and Saudi)
still looks over-weight and probably underpowered, why make a version 2 when the first one was rejected by the Indian Army itself?
Arjun cant be airlifted, the Indian army does not have the bridges to help it cross rivers, its heavy on fuel and underpowered, hence there is no way it can be used by the Indian army for a armoured thrust, hence the T-90 order
Al-Khalid in desert trials scored 95% hit rate on moving targets while moving itself from over 1.5-2km away, it is light and fast, its designed for desert and its capability has been seen by many foreign military delegations which operate M1s and Leopards, they all said Al Khalid is very versatile tank (Turkey and Saudi)
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Re: Indian Arihant Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines
1500hp, 65 tons. 23 hp/ton. Max speed is comparable to early builds of the T-90 (about 60-70 km/h); speed is not really a problem.
However, where it suffers is in the operating range. The Arjun only has a 450km unrefueled operating radius, compared with 600-700km for the T-90 and 550km for the Leopard 2A5-7. It simply doesn't have enough fuel capacity to perform large exploitation maneuvers in the absence of organized resupply.
The larger implication is that an Arjun-equipped brigade will have a significantly lower operational tempo than a T-90 equipped brigade, especially if the Pakistani Air Force can deny air superiority and launch interdiction strikes against Indian resupply columns.
Engagement range and tank-on-tank combat performance are becoming less and less important to modern armored vehicles. Simplicity of maintenance, versatility, and C4ISR performance are much more crucial.
1500hp, 65 tons. 23 hp/ton. Max speed is comparable to early builds of the T-90 (about 60-70 km/h); speed is not really a problem.
However, where it suffers is in the operating range. The Arjun only has a 450km unrefueled operating radius, compared with 600-700km for the T-90 and 550km for the Leopard 2A5-7. It simply doesn't have enough fuel capacity to perform large exploitation maneuvers in the absence of organized resupply.
The larger implication is that an Arjun-equipped brigade will have a significantly lower operational tempo than a T-90 equipped brigade, especially if the Pakistani Air Force can deny air superiority and launch interdiction strikes against Indian resupply columns.
Engagement range and tank-on-tank combat performance are becoming less and less important to modern armored vehicles. Simplicity of maintenance, versatility, and C4ISR performance are much more crucial.
asif iqbal
Banned Idiot
Operational range is not the issue here 2A5-7+ is probably the best tank in the world, extremely capable and highly sophisticated but durable
Arjun has too many issues to list them all, good forbid it ever broke down in the middle of battle the engineer corps would have a nightmare situation trying to get it running again considering all its parts are like a jigsaw imported from country's around the world, overall to sum it up its is a logistical nightmare wether its operating or broken down
Arjun has too many issues to list them all, good forbid it ever broke down in the middle of battle the engineer corps would have a nightmare situation trying to get it running again considering all its parts are like a jigsaw imported from country's around the world, overall to sum it up its is a logistical nightmare wether its operating or broken down
The engineer corps wouldn't have trouble during the battle if there are sufficient stocks of spare parts available. But it's building up those stockpiles that will be hard a nightmare--an expensive nightmare. With such a complex and multinational supply chain, finding spares would be hard; QA across all those parts would be hard; getting a good price would be hard. Compared to the single-supplier model of most Russian tanks, the new Arjun, especially the Mark II, will give the sluggish Indian Army bureaucracy headaches.
The other issue that an imported subsystem model creates for India is that India's defense budget of $30-40B/yr can't take advantage of India's high PPP multiplier (e.g. low labor and raw materials costs). This is a subtle but large strategic disadvantage for the Indian military, and an area in which I think India should adopt China's method of reverse-engineering production methods as opposed to end products to build up a homegrown military-industrial infrastructure.
China is a pretty corrupt country too, but they pulled it off. Corruption and competency are not mutually exclusive.
cn_habs
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Imagine if their fancy fighters and destroyers broke down...