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GiantPanda

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Its only going go do its 1st test sometime this year, apparently full production is around 2030-2031 (so prob 2032)
And it also assumes that sukhoi's went through the 'super' upgrade.
So safe to say there China will have something new by then

Something to keep in mind is that majority of the people's whose income/quality of like that has improved over the years are only the ones who could afford university education, in india's 1.4 billion thats only about 300-400 million people
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Because India went into the IT/service industry first and not into low cost low end manufacturing as much, the bottom 1 billion people havnt seen as big shift into being uplifted.
And Since 2020 the cities in india are seeing reverse-migration, where 42% of workforce was in agriculture in 2019 which in 2024 was up 46% ( and projected to grow more in 2025)
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I would say their consuming class is much smaller than 120M (or China's is much larger than 600M.)

On average, they consume between 1/10th to 1/40th of what China does for hallmark discretionary consumer (not staples) items like luxury cars, high end phones or even food delivery mentioned in the chart:
  • Zomato:
    Zomato, as of fiscal year 2023, processed roughly 1.77 million orders daily, totaling 647 million for the year, says a LinkedIn post.
  • Meituan:
    Meituan, in contrast, achieved a peak of 78 million daily orders in August 2023. Furthermore, Tech in Asia reports that they reached a record of 120 million daily orders




 

Lethe

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The great concern about India has always been that she would ultimately bend the knee to Washington, subsuming her own destiny within that of the prevailing hegemon, as e.g. Japan or Germany have done. That has always appeared quite unlikely, and indeed the concern on this point loomed larger in the late Bush II and Obama eras than it does today, but nonetheless the trajectory in recent decades has been one of increasing alignment, mostly for pragmatic and otherwise understandable reasons but nonetheless giving rise to some slight concern about the potential future extent of that alignment. To see Trump drive such a decisive wedge in the relationship is therefore quite reassuring. It doesn't actually matter whether Trump is successful in coercing India in relation to Russian oil or not; in either case, any illusions in Delhi of an ever-closer relationship with Washington born of converging interests have been decisively crushed for another generation. Jai Hind!
 
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gelgoog

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It doesn't actually matter whether Trump is successful in coercing India in relation to Russian oil or not; in either case, any illusions in Delhi of an ever-closer relationship with Washington born of converging interests have been decisively crushed for another generation.
It might start with oil but then India could be made to cut economic ties with Russia in other fields as well. This would be highly damaging for the Indian economy.
For example Rosatom is presently building 4x 1 GW nuclear power plants in India. And there were talks about the Russians building a second set of nuclear power plants at another site, which the Russians agreed to in principle.
None of the Western nuclear power companies actually started the projects they claimed they would build in India. Not Westinghouse, not Areva, etc.

They also never get significant tech transfer from the West in any of the military projects they do.
 

bebops

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In the Indian forum, a few posters said Pakistan backed out of the j35 deal so they can acquire F35 instead. Pakistan will also allow US base. There is a possibility that this will happen.

It may sound crazy.. just recently US invited some high ranking Pak official to US for chat.
 

4Tran

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In the Indian forum, a few posters said Pakistan backed out of the j35 deal so they can acquire F35 instead. Pakistan will also allow US base. There is a possibility that this will happen.

It may sound crazy.. just recently US invited some high ranking Pak official to US for chat.
Pakistan's most recent experience with American made aircraft was when the US disallowed the use of F-16s against India in Kashmir. Pakistan doesn't seem to be an insane country so it's unlikely they'd like to pin their future on the same thing happening again. Moreover, the Americans would never sell Pakistan F-35s because they're terrified that its secrets will be shared directly with China. All in all, I don't think that there's any chance that Pakistan would buy F-35s.
 

Rafi

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Pakistan's most recent experience with American made aircraft was when the US disallowed the use of F-16s against India in Kashmir. Pakistan doesn't seem to be an insane country so it's unlikely they'd like to pin their future on the same thing happening again. Moreover, the Americans would never sell Pakistan F-35s because they're terrified that its secrets will be shared directly with China. All in all, I don't think that there's any chance that Pakistan would buy F-35s.

large ticket items such as aircraft and naval systems, tanks, helicopters from the US will never be purchased by the Pakistani military anymore, China and to a lesser extent Turkey and also domestic production will make up the vast majority of defence spending
 
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