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Pataliputra said:
The JF-17 is a cheap aircraft, but it may not meet the needs of countries seeking a high-tech air force. While it suits the budget constraints of poor nations like Nigeria, Pakistan, and some African countries, it falls short for those requiring advanced military capabilities.
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Exactly in the same way, the Tejas is a cheap aircraft for the Indian Air Force to bolster numbers, support the Indian Industry and the ego of so many, „but it too may not meet the needs of countries seeking a high-tech air force.“ In fact I would delete the word „may“ and replace it with „does“.
 
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The JF-17 Block 3 does not compare favorably with the Tejas. The JF-17 is based on an outdated design with an aluminum alloy body and features an air-cooled AESA radar. Although the JF-17 Block 3 integrates a triple-axis digital fly-by-wire system, the Tejas has had a more advanced quadriplex digital fly-by-wire system from the outset. Despite being smaller, the Tejas MK1A boasts greater range and higher payload capacity than the JF-17. There are many other differences I could mention, but doing so would make this post overly lengthy. In short, the JF-17 and the Tejas MK1A are simply not comparable.
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Yes they are not comparable, since the one is in service in numbers since years and the other one is a constantly overhyped wet-dream!

Again, get real …

Yes, ON PAPER the Tejas is the more modern one, has more composite material and now after again and again restructurings, a maybe more modern aviocs suite than the regular JF-17, but again, the JF-17C too has an AESA, is already in service and your Tejas Mk.1A? Again delayed, again will need more time to appear in numbers …
 
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I have compared the specifications of JF17 Block 3 and Tejas MK1A
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Yes, and like an Indian super-fan boy I blocked some time ago you surely too agree, the Tejas 1A is comparable to the F-35 since it too is a “single engined stealthy multirole fighter“!

We are not playing “Quartett‘s game“ where „mine is lighter“ than yours, so it beats you even if you have almost hundred of them in service since years!“
 
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Deino said:
Yes they are not comparable, since the one is in service in numbers since years and the other one is a constantly overhyped wet-dream!

Again, get real …

Yes, ON PAPER the Tejas is the more modern one, has more composite material and now after again and again restructurings, a maybe more modern aviocs suite than the regular JF-17, but again, the JF-17C too has an AESA, is already in service and your Tejas Mk.1A? Again delayed, again will need more time to appear in numbers …
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AESA Radar in JF17 block 3 is air cooled
 
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AESA Radar in JF17 block 3 is air cooled
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What a load of crap! And the fact that it is air-cooled does not make it an AESA?

It‘s just the method to cool the radar, but says nothing about which one is better, more capable, more reliable, more mature.

Will your next argument be the Tejas‘ grey is a bit darker than the JF-17‘s?
 
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Next you are going to tell us the Tejas is superior because it uses the same engine as the F/A-18, which defeated the aliens in Independence Day.
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lol you win post of the week.

I thought MK1A Tejas was introduced into service with IAF a few years ago? Isn't that the one with the canard additions? How long does it take to develop and build a Mirage 2000 copy?
 
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What a load of crap! And the fact that it is air-cooled does not make it an AESA?

It‘s just the method to cool the radar, but says nothing about which one is better, more capable, more reliable, more mature.

Will your next argument be the Tejas‘ grey is a bit darker than the JF-17‘s?
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Air-cooled AESA radar is markedly different from liquid-cooled AESA radar in both design and efficiency. Liquid cooling is significantly more effective than air cooling.
 
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Deino said:
What a load of crap! And the fact that it is air-cooled does not make it an AESA?

It‘s just the method to cool the radar, but says nothing about which one is better, more capable, more reliable, more mature.

Will your next argument be the Tejas‘ grey is a bit darker than the JF-17‘s?
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To be fair, it does.
Pataliputra said:
AESA Radar in JF17 block 3 is air cooled
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It's still an AESA. Even if power will be limited - software isn't.
And it's already a fully operational AESA in PAF service. Unlike mk.1A, especially with Uttam, which isn't yet born.
 
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Pataliputra said:
Air-cooled AESA radar is markedly different from liquid-cooled AESA radar in both design and efficiency. Liquid cooling is significantly more effective than air cooling.
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Air-cooled also means they can be retrofitted to Block 2 JF-17s and I believe that is PAF's plan.
 
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