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Pataliputra

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Pretty impressive. It might just be a few years away from being as good as the JF-17 Block 3
The JF-17 Block 3 does not compare favorably with the Tejas. The JF-17 is based on an outdated design with an aluminum alloy body and features an air-cooled AESA radar. Although the JF-17 Block 3 integrates a triple-axis digital fly-by-wire system, the Tejas has had a more advanced quadriplex digital fly-by-wire system from the outset. Despite being smaller, the Tejas MK1A boasts greater range and higher payload capacity than the JF-17. There are many other differences I could mention, but doing so would make this post overly lengthy. In short, the JF-17 and the Tejas MK1A are simply not comparable.
 

Pataliputra

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Which isn't bad per se, to be fair.

JF-17 is a capable platform relying on one of world's electronic powerhouses.
2-3 years of difference are crucial during wartime, but for peace it's quite OK.
The JF-17 is a cheap aircraft, but it may not meet the needs of countries seeking a high-tech air force. While it suits the budget constraints of poor nations like Nigeria, Pakistan, and some African countries, it falls short for those requiring advanced military capabilities.
 

doggydogdo

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The JF-17 Block 3 does not compare favorably with the Tejas. The JF-17 is based on an outdated design with an aluminum alloy body and features an air-cooled AESA radar. Although the JF-17 Block 3 integrates a triple-axis digital fly-by-wire system, the Tejas has had a more advanced quadriplex digital fly-by-wire system from the outset. Despite being smaller, the how boasts greater range and higher payload capacity than the JF-17. There are many other differences I could mention, but doing so would make this post overly lengthy. In short, the JF-17 and the Tejas MK1A are simply not comparable.
The things you listed apply to older JF-17 models not Block 3. Tejas is better than the older models but not the block 3. In the future it might be but right now Block 3 is better and have dozens delivered while Tejas MK 1A just started delivery.
 

Pataliputra

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The things you listed apply to older JF-17 models not Block 3. Tejas is better than the older models but not the block 3. In the future it might be but right now Block 3 is better and have dozens delivered while Tejas MK 1A just started delivery.
I have compared the specifications of JF17 Block 3 and Tejas MK1A
 

Jason_

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The JF-17 Block 3 does not compare favorably with the Tejas. The JF-17 is based on an outdated design with an aluminum alloy body and features an air-cooled AESA radar. Although the JF-17 Block 3 integrates a triple-axis digital fly-by-wire system, the Tejas has had a more advanced quadriplex digital fly-by-wire system from the outset. Despite being smaller, the Tejas MK1A boasts greater range and higher payload capacity than the JF-17. There are many other differences I could mention, but doing so would make this post overly lengthy. In short, the JF-17 and the Tejas MK1A are simply not comparable.
Triple axis means FBW in the pitch, roll, and yall axis. Quadruplex means four redundant backup systems for reliability. They are not comparable or muturally exclusive. You can have any combination of 1/2/3 axis FBW with single/dual/triple/quadruplex channels.
 

Gloire_bb

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The JF-17 is a cheap aircraft, but it may not meet the needs of countries seeking a high-tech air force. While it suits the budget constraints of poor nations like Nigeria, Pakistan, and some African countries, it falls short for those requiring advanced military capabilities.
Cheap aircraft win wars. Expensive aircraft lose them. Ultimately, both are modern supersonic fighters with datalinks and modern weapons - i.e. fill up numbers of *relevant* aircraft.

JF-17 blk.1-2 are tactically equivalent to that Tejas mk.1 wanted to be - but far more operational. And they're competitive enough against majority of current Indian fleet, making their excellent numbers/availability combination a huge equalizer between the two sides.

JF-17 blk.3 provides Islabamad with what Tejas mk.1A wants to be in the future - provided Tejas will become stable enough, soon enough. But Thunders will still provide PAF with more value per unit of money than anything in Indian service.
So the trend of Pakistan spending their (far more limited) resources with far better bang for the buck will continue, keeping both sides reasonably close in air power.
 

Soldier30

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Tests of the Russian T-90S tank in India in 1999. Archival footage of the Russian Uralvagonzavod. Tests on May 17, 1999 in India of the Russian T-90S tank. It was a difficult time for the plant at that time; one might say that the contract with India saved the plant. In 1997, India showed interest in the T-90S tank. But India needed a tank with a 1000-horsepower engine and a thermal imaging sight. At that time, the Russian tank did not have the required characteristics, but the adaptation of the tank and the revival of production took place in the shortest possible time at Uralvagonzavod. Tests were carried out in the Thar desert, each tank traveled more than 2000 kilometers. The V-92S2 "ChTZ-Uraltrak" diesel engine demonstrated phenomenal endurance. The tests were completed successfully. In the early 2000s, 124 tanks went to India in finished form and another 186 in the form of vehicle kits. And in 2004, the first Indian-assembled T-90S tank was released.

 

Deino

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The Tejas MK1A is to be deployed at forward bases along the Pakistan border, where it will encounter Pakistani F16s and J10Cs. It is the only fighter jet in the Indian Air Force, besides the Rafales, to be equipped with AESA Radar and state-of-the-art avionics from the start. It can launch some of the most advanced weapons in the world, including the Meteor and Brahmos NG missiles. Although the Su30MKI and Mig29 are also capable platforms, they are aging and require upgrades to AESA Radar and modern avionics to remain operational for the next 20 years in the case of the Su30MKI, and 10 years for the Mig-29K.


Not again … I must admit, you guys are really funny - like the same ones I had some intense disputes recently on Twitter!

Is there a reason, why any „soon“, “will be“, „will have“ and „is planned“ some day in the distant für is hailed and exaggerated as if something great was invented? Tweets like „Indian helicopters are the best in the world“, „India‘s superiority in air launched cruise missiles“, trying to portray the Vikrant vastly superior to the Fujian (since it has onyl two catapults and has smoking engines in comparison to the clean Vikrant) and so on is just embarrassing.

Yes, Tejas is a nice tiny fighter, and the A-variant may have an AESA but when will then be available in number in the that area and to put it in a comparable role and capability like Pakistani F-16 and J-16C is just laughable.

Get mature man.
 
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