Indian Economics thread.

[Chandragupt]

Ra

Rafale is French, MKI is Russian, Aircraft carrier is Russia, MiG-29 is Russian, subs are Russian, Mirage is French, Brahmos is Russian what the hell else is there that matters? List India's strongest military inventory without foreign purchase.

China is ahead of India in everything that can be measured; that you must admit because unlike the other fool who claimed that every successful company needs an Indian CEO, at least you can read numbers. But it doesn't mean that you can assume that it's a laggard in things that cannot be measured like military power.

Rafale is french , MKI is russian but this is indian

One aircraft carrier is Russian but this one is indian

Some submarines are russians some are french while some are indian ones

Brahmos is a joint venture of india and Russia but there are many missiles which are indian

 

[manqiangrexue]

Ra

Rafale is french , MKI is russian but this is indian
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One aircraft carrier is Russian but this one is indian
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Some submarines are russians some are french while some are indian ones
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Brahmos is a joint venture of india and Russia but there are many missiles which are indian

Why's this post so blown up? You don't need these ugly pictures; just name them.

This piece of shit? You want to bring this up in the face of China's J-20? It's not even worth mentioning; like someone putting 2 round rocks under plank and telling Ferrari to check out your car. Tejas is overdue overexpensive crap with an engine (and probably much more) that is imported. India imports like 10 different kids of fighters with the Tejas at the back of the line because Tejas is garbage.... that took 3 decades to build.... and they only made like 40. MKI is IAF's backbone, not this shit. Without imports, India does not fly.

Aircraft carriers, submarines, missiles they all use foreign componentry. It's not really yours if you built a box and put foreign parts in it. If India were to ever become a rival, they can all be sanctioned, although India's way too weak to have to worry about that. Chinese submarines, jets, even aircraft carriers have no foreign reliance (some use Russian parts but others don't because while China can make everything, sometimes it's cheaper to buy more as long as there is no reliance).

 

[Chandragupt]

That's what literally eveyone in the world thinks when an Indian steps out of his domestic propaganda and talks about Indian "power."

China's DF-21, DF-26 missiles are the only ones in the world that can wipe out aircraft carriers before they even enter the theater. China's DF-ZF is a hypersonic nuclear missile that America cannot answer or even copy. China's the only country to take a railgun to sea... before America scrapped theirs. Our 055A is the most heavily armed modern surface combatant in the world. China is the only country other than the US with 2 stealth fighters and unlike America, we don't have 1 of them running on antequated software and the other one plagued with various problems in its engines, skin, systems, etc... America's entire military thinks about how to beat China and China's thinks about how to beat America. India is like a cockroach passing by a fight between monsters.

Chinese weapons are considered junk not just by indians or Americans or the koreas or the Japanese or the ASEAN countries but entire world including Pakistan considers Chinese weapons as junk
Chinese government can hide aircraft crashes easily because there is no independent media but that won’t improve the quality of aircrafts china makes

 

[manqiangrexue]

Chinese weapons are considered junk not just by indians or Americans or the koreas or the Japanese or the ASEAN countries but entire world including Pakistan considers Chinese weapons as junk

That's coming from your imaginative mouth, not theirs. China's customers in the middle east rave that Chinese drones are 25% the cost of America's but all the bang. All these countries you brought up would rather drown their wives and kids than fight China. Whenever China comes for islands, they cry to the US, and then that fails too as China expands further in the SCS. Nobody dares stop China. That's what they think about Chinese weapons. Actions speak louder than (your imaginary) words.

Chinese government can hide aircraft crashes easily because there is no independent media but that won’t improve the quality of aircrafts china makes

That's you imagining things again. No crashes = hidden crashes. No deaths = hidden deaths. With this retarded Indian logic (despite you not being Indian, no problem), there is no evidence necessary. This is why India never improves; because when its deficiencies show up, it doesn't think, "Wow, I'm way behind; I need to work hard," it thinks, "I know I'm ahead, so they must have hid all their failures. I'm good, nothing to worry about. Let's make me a medal!" India's attitude is always, "I'm always better than you because no matter how many fuck ups I have, I'll imagine you have more but hid them." That's why Indias don't feel embarrassed when they compare themselves favorably to countries that outclass the countries that outclass the countries that outclass India.

 

[tygyg1111]

Chinese weapons are considered junk not just by indians or Americans or the koreas or the Japanese or the ASEAN countries but entire world including Pakistan considers Chinese weapons as junk
Chinese government can hide aircraft crashes easily because there is no independent media but that won’t improve the quality of aircrafts china makes

Last time an aircraft crashed, it was well publicised, with the black box going overseas for analysis because that was the only place that could do it. It needed to be investigated because it is not a daily occurrence.

These junk weapons bagged a solid K/D 6 decades ago, which India is still sore about, and improv weapons (clubs, bats, etc.), which probably were fashioned out of actual junk, resulted in a 4:1 K/D with 200 captured. I'm sure you know when and where this was.

For our southwestern neighbour though, aircraft crashes (AC130 shortly after purchase), accidental missile fires (submarine firing while docked, ICBM firing into Pakistan), and general incompetence is such an everyday occurrence, that you have to wonder, what use is an 'independent' media when even these type of massive f. ups can't get rectified?

 

[Chandragupt]

Why's this post so blown up? You don't need pictures; just name them. Tejas is overdue overexpensive crap with an engine (and probably much more) that is imported. India imports like 10 different kids of fighters with the Tejas at the back of the line because Tejas is garbage.... that took 28 years to build. MKI is India's backbone, not this shit.

Aircraft carriers, submarines, missiles they all use foreign componentry. It's not really yours if you built a box and put foreign parts in it. If India were to ever become a rival, they can all be sanctioned, although India's way too weak to have to worry about that. Chinese submarines, jets, even aircraft carriers have no foreign reliance (some use Russian parts but others don't because while China can make everything, sometimes it's cheaper to buy more as long as there is no reliance).

How many parts are imported and how many of them have been developed by indians themselves google it gain some knowledge and then come
Whether they took 28 years or 8 years to build Tejas is irrelevant the fact is that it is serving in indian Airforce and they’re continuously improving it and it’s better than any 4th gen aircraft China has

 

[manqiangrexue]

How many parts are imported and how many of them have been developed by indians themselves google it gain some knowledge and then come

They all have critical foreign parts. The engine of the Tejas is foreign. What do I need to know that makes me wrong?

Whether they took 28 years or 8 years to build Tejas is irrelevant the fact is that it is serving in indian Airforce amd they’re continuously improving it

It's serving as a very small part of the IAF hidden behind Russian planes whereas Chinese jets serve as the backbone of the PLAAF. When Pakistan shot down your MiG-21, JF-17 was there waiting. Where the hell was Tejas? LOL Hiding behind MKI, which would not even suffice to take revenge.

and it’s better than any 4th gen aircraft China has

Indian imagination is so funny. Just state what you hope to be true! LOL China has an economy 5x that of India, is at the cutting edge of every envelope in tech while Indians wallow in mud, but just imagine India's sideline joke fighter is better LOL. What parameters do you use to make this comparison to J-11B, J-10D, J-15, J-16? I'm interested to dissect this imagination of yours.

 

[ougoah]

Wow Indian delusion actually enhances with Indian stagnation and failure.

You guys should just stop. No human can out-talk Indians. Just smile and nod as the imbeciles dig themselves further. the Indians are the kind of people who would buy an off the shelf industrial rail product from China and then cheer themselves on with talks of Indian hyper-rail... hyper speeds... to be done in 10 years. You can't really talk with people that deep in their own asses. Let the others talk and deal with them if they please. Spare us the annoyance lol.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

You guys try your best to get into US universities but you are rejected. There is a huge diaspora of Chinese in west but they are nowhere near Indians in Education, Top positions in Corporates, Research centers, Universities, administration, Big organizations like IMF, World Bank etc. Where is the comparison? What is your achievement outside China inspite of having such a big diaspora outside China.


You are ahead of US in economy and infrastructure. Remember, you were not much ahead 2 decade ago. You have a totalitarian regime. We are a democracy. While we develop, we have to take into account many concern including Human rights. Our development is targeted in long run and sustain development. It takes some time for democracies to put the things in place but once it is done, their development is wholistic and sustainable. We have put our cards in place and we are fastest growing major economy now and will remain so for many decades. China has grown to its full potential to which their structure can provide. We do not have any limitations. Rise of democracy is like a bamboo in which it takes years to develop its roots inside the soil. When it is done, it grows very rapidly. Likewise, we have put all out things in place and it is the time of rapid rise. We are among the top nation in space science, Nuclear technology, defense etc. You can turn blind eye and deny reality but that can not stop India from progressing rapidly.

We are among the top nation in space science, Nuclear technology, defense etc. You can turn blind eye and deny reality but that can not stop India from progressing rapidly.

You'll have to at least provide data, facts, and figures to support the claims you stated otherwise you're just simply wasting people's time here and frankly all you're doing is nothing but trolling.

It is good to be proud of one's country no question about it, but it's not a virtue to boast of an achievement that has simply yet to be manifested or achieve. Just because you say so doesn't make it so.

I mean, to most reasonable observers regardless of ethnicity or nationality your rhetoric and deductive reasoning are woefully bad, not to mention you're just coming across like a deranged lunatic claiming something that can be verifiable to be demonstrably false.

Boasting isn't an achievement and isn't something you can always say Jai Hind when the reality and challenges in front of your country are quite immense of which requires tremendous hardworking, and single minded focus to achieving realistic objectives. Jai Hind isn't a substitute to hard work.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

That is a compulsion of not getting job after studying from C or D grade universities after spending big money.



And all those achievement are secrete like 36th chamber of Shaolin. Nobody knows about those achievements.



Chinese economy is built on making people work for 18 hours for a bowl of rice. However, their days are over now. We are the country adding far more Unicorns that China today. We are progressing faster than China. It is a matter of 15 to 20 years before we surpass China economically. We have surpassed China is many other areas and will do it in rest in few years. This is like a US , Russia competition 3 to 4 decade ago. Now Russia is nowhere in picture.

We have surpassed China is many other areas and will do it in rest in few years

Source? Data/facts and figures? You can't brag about something without backing up your fantastical claims buddy. I know you love hearing yourself talk in fictional terms but you should come down in reality bud.