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NiuBiDaRen

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USA is playing game of chess with china,
First USA used Lithuania as a pawn to give more official independent status by opening taiwan embassy in there, china retaliated because it was a big provocation, now they have changed their way to give taiwan more recognition in world by using eceonomic means that's why even taiwan tried to join economic framework of ipef but somehow not accepted because USA knows consequences or doesn't want to play this move now,so instead they're choosing india to their job if FTA happens then other countries will come to do same agreement which will make Beijing alot of problem in future because those countries who has deep economic ties would somehow come to support or protect their own interest in invasion case so that means openly providing arms support like what USA is doing with Ukraine .

Also FTA would give more exposure to big market and india is greedy do he must have done something which means giving more excess to market for more technology transfer which would also make Taiwanese company to easily shift their some or more production away from china .

China is also in deep trouble despite so much of sanction imposed by USA on semiconductor companies still china didn't retaliated because it would only help those tech companies to run away from china .

China must need to stop these FTA by forcing taiwan to stop these official visit . Remember that india has stopped talking about one china policy since a decade and they know that china won't reataliated to them like you can see through app ban & seizing of assets from Chinese company and current geopolitical environment is in favour of india, and south east Asian countries such as Vietnam, Indonesia and other near shore countries of USA.
@Overbom this your brother?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Remember that india has stopped talking about one china policy since a decade and they know that china won't reataliated to them
There's a popular saying in Chinese: "你做初一,我做十五", meaning that "if you do me harm, then I will return the favor".

If India keeps up their rhetoric on the Taiwan issue by not acknowledging the One China Policy and One China Principle, supporting Taiwanese separatist forces in direct hostile actions against Beijing, alongside continuously habouring Tibetan separatist movements in India, then sooner or later, China should consider retaliating by massively strenghtening Pakistan's claim on Jammu and Kashmir, plus not recognizing India's claim over Aksai Chin and South Tibet in its entirety.

Besides, with Kathmandu having bad blood with New Delhi ever since India's 6-month-long blockade of Nepal in 2015, China should put in more effort towards pulling Nepal into China's sphere of influence and prosperity.

Furthermore, remember the "Five Fingers of Tibet" tabled by Mao back then? In the geopolitical climate of today, having the Five Fingers of Tibet within China's influence (Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim) and control (Aksai Chin, Southern Tibet) would be effective in strengthening China's southern frontier against the imperialist aggression attempts by India as a direct descendant of the British Empire.
 
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Biscuits

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India is hard for China to deal with because they're the case Russia is on.

Most other nations, China can just put sanctions on them and then later sicc some unfortunate geopolitical happenings on them to fully ruin them (like what happens to Lithuania). But India is protected because Russia presumably keeps saying "give us more time, we're working on it".

As I see it, India is an evolutionary dead end, because the concept of Indian itself is rooted in colonialism, first by Muslims and then by Anglos. An Indian can per definition never be decolonized, because being colonised is Indian identity. There was never an independent existence of India before colonisation.

Does this mean the people of the subcontinent have no future, are doomed to live in poverty and starvation? No. It just means that they shouldn't remain artificially united, just like EU should not remain united. It is an artificial union that only serves to arrest the people's potential, creating corrupt rulers that have no interest in Indian wellbeing, just like the likes of Ursula von der leyen has no interest in European wellbeing.

With Russia being forced to rely more and more closely on China, there soon won't be anyone to shield India from being instrumented on.

If India can gather its wits, maybe China can offer them one final great bargain. Permanent security against breakup and end of the local communist guerilla in exchange for India to become a security partner with the same standing as Belarus, Iran or even Russia.

It would not necessarily solve the foundational problems of an artificial India, but it would tie Indian existence to the rising current world order, rather than the flimsy world order which the Anglos, former slayers of millions of Indians, are trying to create.
 

Nilou

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People need to understand in the past year Chinese exports to India have increased by more than 10% and Indian exports to China have dropped by more than 30%. India's trade deficit with China is increasing rapidly and India has no solution to this. Rather than reform their own economy and slow/stop capital outflows which is politically difficult but necessary, they would rather opt for meaningless gestures which is readily apparent to everyone. In the long run this charade is advantageous to China. Again what people need to keep in mind is that no country ever became developed in the past century by maintaining a trade deficit, and India is increasing theirs. There is a reason why the rupee keeps dropping in value, which has halved against the USD in the past ten years.
 

hullopilllw

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USA is playing game of chess with china,
First USA used Lithuania as a pawn to give more official independent status by opening taiwan embassy in there, china retaliated because it was a big provocation, now they have changed their way to give taiwan more recognition in world by using eceonomic means that's why even taiwan tried to join economic framework of ipef but somehow not accepted because USA knows consequences or doesn't want to play this move now,so instead they're choosing india to their job if FTA happens then other countries will come to do same agreement which will make Beijing alot of problem in future because those countries who has deep economic ties would somehow come to support or protect their own interest in invasion case so that means openly providing arms support like what USA is doing with Ukraine .

Also FTA would give more exposure to big market and india is greedy do he must have done something which means giving more excess to market for more technology transfer which would also make Taiwanese company to easily shift their some or more production away from china .

China is also in deep trouble despite so much of sanction imposed by USA on semiconductor companies still china didn't retaliated because it would only help those tech companies to run away from china .

China must need to stop these FTA by forcing taiwan to stop these official visit . Remember that india has stopped talking about one china policy since a decade and they know that china won't reataliated to them like you can see through app ban & seizing of assets from Chinese company and current geopolitical environment is in favour of india, and south east Asian countries such as Vietnam, Indonesia and other near shore countries of USA.
All you points are moot.

The main point of concern is that India require foreign help to achieve basic industrialisation(which it hasn't done so and are on verge of being trapped in low income class nation).

The West generally no longer have appetite to do so that after seeing how competitive China becomes.

Therefore, India needs Chinese input and expertise to industrialise.

Signing an FTA with TW island just to poke China in the eye is something everyone expect India to do ; highly symbolic move which generate no real return. India has no role in major regional FTA like RCEP and CPTPP, no use pretending India is in the competition.
 

zgx09t

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USA is playing game of chess with china,
First USA used Lithuania as a pawn to give more official independent status by opening taiwan embassy in there, china retaliated because it was a big provocation, now they have changed their way to give taiwan more recognition in world by using eceonomic means that's why even taiwan tried to join economic framework of ipef but somehow not accepted because USA knows consequences or doesn't want to play this move now,so instead they're choosing india to their job if FTA happens then other countries will come to do same agreement which will make Beijing alot of problem in future because those countries who has deep economic ties would somehow come to support or protect their own interest in invasion case so that means openly providing arms support like what USA is doing with Ukraine .

Also FTA would give more exposure to big market and india is greedy do he must have done something which means giving more excess to market for more technology transfer which would also make Taiwanese company to easily shift their some or more production away from china .

China is also in deep trouble despite so much of sanction imposed by USA on semiconductor companies still china didn't retaliated because it would only help those tech companies to run away from china .

China must need to stop these FTA by forcing taiwan to stop these official visit . Remember that india has stopped talking about one china policy since a decade and they know that china won't reataliated to them like you can see through app ban & seizing of assets from Chinese company and current geopolitical environment is in favour of india, and south east Asian countries such as Vietnam, Indonesia and other near shore countries of USA.

The Curry is strong with this one.
 
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