India, Russia to build jet version of BrahMos

adeptitus

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The published range for the BrahMos is 290km. If they can modify this for air-launch from a Su-30, it'd be a very long-range anti-ship missile comparred to the current Exocet and Harpoon's.

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India, Russia to build jet version of BrahMos

BANGALORE: India and Russia have pumped in $50 million to develop an aircraft version of supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, according to a top official of the joint venture.

"Development for the aircraft version is a new (initiative), which was not originally contemplated. Towards that we have added $50 million in the company as investment from both India and Russia," CEO and MD of BrahMos Aerospace A Sivathanu Pillai said in Bangalore on Friday.

Pillai said the Indian Air Force (IAF) would integrate the missile with Sukhoi-30 fighters.

"We have now completed the feasibility study for integrating the BrahMos with Sukhoi-30 for Air Force. They have accepted the report and now we are in the process of making certain changes in the missile which will suit its integration with the Sukhoi and 2007 is the target date for flying in the aircraft," he said.

The missile system was being inducted by the Indian Navy, Pillai said adding some trials have been conducted for the Army too

"We are going to do some more trials to meet the various requirements of the Army against land targets. Once that process is over, the Army would also induct the system," he said.

According to Pillai, the Russian government, as a joint venture partner, would install the system on their ships. "We are working out as to how to do it."

Essentially an anti-ship missile, BrahMos has a striking range of 290 kms.

"We have to restrict the range being a player at the international (level) now. If you want to sell the product outside (overseas), you have to follow certain conditions. That's why we have restricted the range," Pillai said.

He said being the best anti-ship missile in the world today; BrahMos has attracted the interest of many countries.

"There are countries who are very keen to have the BrahMos system. We are in discussion with them," Pillai said

"We are addressing various countries which are friendly with us by conducting various exhibitions and interacting with their defence ministries and at the government-to-government level".

According to Pillai, there are some countries who think the system is good but are reluctant to buy it since India is not a big player in arms sales so far.

Pillai said the cost of the BrahMos missile depends on its platform, configuration and application.

"We have not finalised the cost as a standard module," he said.
 

crazyinsane105

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I think the Su-30 will be able to carry about three Brahmos missiles. Many supersonic missiles these days can outperform the Exocet and Harpoon in respect to range. However, I think that the Club may be the mainstay of the Indian Navy since it is more sophisiticated than the Brahmos. This development should concern Pakistan the most, but then again, the IN is preparing for an eventual PLAN presence in the Indian Ocean so it's reasonable to say that the strategy of the IN is no longer Pakistani centric.
 

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Club is the better missile of the two, but Brahmos is like India's baby. It is probably a lot cheaper and more versatile than Club. Either way, having an air-launched Brahmos is going to be deadly, since most air-launched ASuM do not have the total package of range+speed+accuracy of Brahmos.
 

ArjunMk1

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How is Club better than Brahmos ??? :confused:

Also India does have two types of Club (Uran) , both are subsonics but one takes supersonic speed at the terminal phase !!! Currently Indian destroyers are being packed with a cocktail of both Club and Brahmos !!!
 

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Well thats makes club more atratcive, its versitability. Its a unique missile family suited for various operational reguirments and targets. It gives mediocore supersonic reach but also land attack and ASW capability, that Bhramoss doesent offer. But to my knowlidge Bharmoss will have lot of commonatility with club eq same VSL modules and some data systems. But IN needs both of them
 

MIGleader

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ArjunMk1 said:
How is Club better than Brahmos ??? :confused:

Also India does have two types of Club (Uran) , both are subsonics but one takes supersonic speed at the terminal phase !!! Currently Indian destroyers are being packed with a cocktail of both Club and Brahmos !!!

how? klub=advanced russian cruise missle designed solely by russia.
Brahmos=yakhont varient designed by india and russia.

therefor, much of brahmos came from the same people who designed klub, but i dont think putin would let his engineers help any foreign nation build a missle better than his own.
 

tphuang

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ArjunMk1 said:
How is Club better than Brahmos ??? :confused:

Also India does have two types of Club (Uran) , both are subsonics but one takes supersonic speed at the terminal phase !!! Currently Indian destroyers are being packed with a cocktail of both Club and Brahmos !!!
the lo-lo range of Brahmos is only 120 KM. This has been mentionned like a million times already. And also, the most relevant part (speed at terminal stage) is about the same for Club and Brahmos.
 

jatt

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the lo-lo range of Brahmos is only 120 KM. This has been mentionned like a million times already. And also, the most relevant part (speed at terminal stage) is about the same for Club and Brahmos.
Seems you always speed of low low profile. Might I remind you both missiles in VLS configuration jetison to 150 meters and then begin cruising. The profile of Barhmos is unkown bu speculated it flys perhaps 5 km high. Both systems with their range could be detected by radar when they are jetisoned, expecially when they are in enemy AD. While the Klub avoids tracking the Barhmos advantage is its speed during cruise which allows it to reach the target faster making sure the target doesn't move to far. Also I believe a mixed profile could increase the chances of Barhmos' survival by going low low in enemy SAM range. And lets not also forget both need to climb up to see the target when 40~ km away from it! Suprise not! The difference is at these ranges the Barhmos shortens their reaction time by 2-3 folds. Why do you think the Soviets used Granit? Bigger missile, larger RCS and the same profile exept bigger warhead and longer range.
Also Migleader don't act like a know it all. The Soviets and Russians basically transferred Barhmos over to India not just to meet their needs for a differen't seeker but also meet global market demand. The Indian seeker was probabiliy better quality, knowing Russian seekers in missiles, ie R-27.
 

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jatt said:
Seems you always speed of low low profile. Might I remind you both missiles in VLS configuration jetison to 150 meters and then begin cruising. The profile of Barhmos is unkown bu speculated it flys perhaps 5 km high. Both systems with their range could be detected by radar when they are jetisoned, expecially when they are in enemy AD. While the Klub avoids tracking the Barhmos advantage is its speed during cruise which allows it to reach the target faster making sure the target doesn't move to far. Also I believe a mixed profile could increase the chances of Barhmos' survival by going low low in enemy SAM range. And lets not also forget both need to climb up to see the target when 40~ km away from it! Suprise not! The difference is at these ranges the Barhmos shortens their reaction time by 2-3 folds. Why do you think the Soviets used Granit? Bigger missile, larger RCS and the same profile exept bigger warhead and longer range.
Also Migleader don't act like a know it all. The Soviets and Russians basically transferred Barhmos over to India not just to meet their needs for a differen't seeker but also meet global market demand. The Indian seeker was probabiliy better quality, knowing Russian seekers in missiles, ie R-27.
What did India exactly do in the project? I have my doubts that the Indian seeker is better in quality. Has India managed to develop any indigenous AAM or AShM by itself?

As I mentionned before and a million time afterward, having supersonic hi profile does not help since it still can be shot down in that profile. Club won't be detected until it's within its 60-65 KM terminal phase, so the fact that it was subsonic is irrelevant.
 

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sorry Jatt back to the reality

India have never built a anti-ship missile by its self before what makes the indian seeker better the the original Russian

infact most of the brahmos was developed before the soviet union fell apart the russian later called it the yakhont the export version to india is known as the brahmos

also the indians did not make the gudiance system as Russia threaten to withhold the lunch code if india make it by them self they would not have had that problem

the brahmos is a very good missile but its almost 100% russian so no its not such a great achivement for india
 
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