SinoSoldier
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Sources suggest that the Chinese have deployed HQ-16 in the region. Wouldn't be surprised if the HQ-17 followed suit.
India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan
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Sources suggest that the Chinese have deployed HQ-16 in the region. Wouldn't be surprised if the HQ-17 followed suit.
Hendrik_2000
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That is correct Missile attack is the Achilles heel of Indian army . They don't have any missile defense system in place And it won't for decades to come
So all China need to do is hitting it from the far. Artillery is Chinese specialty from ancient time. They used it extensively in Imjin war. Notice the recent exercise is artillery firing both rocket and gun
They have large stockpile of rocket and the variety is mind boggling 200km. 100km etc.
Most large Chinese air base is set back more than 300km from the order so it is outside range of Brahmos. some is within like Nyingchi
As to China saving face The other shoe hasn't drop yet
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Get that trek crap outta here, May the force be with you.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Interesting article how ready is Indian army some analyst speculate it will run out of ammunition after 10days. Excerpt
How battle-ready is India for a war against China or Pakistan?
The report that the country’s Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has submitted to the Parliament about the Indian army has some significantly disturbing findings. Despite all its bravery, our army is battling with a drastic shortfall of necessary ammunition.
Updated: Aug 06, 2017 23:56 IST
There is bad news for those Facebook warriors eager for a war with China and Pakistan. The report that the country’s Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has submitted to Parliament about the Indian army has some significantly disturbing findings. Despite all its bravery, our army is battling with a drastic shortfall of necessary ammunition.
The report is a follow-up to the conclusions of May 2015. Its objective was to evaluate the progress that has been made over the last three years. The CAG report on ammunition management reveals that the situation in September 2016 has not changed very much since March 2013.
The reason? Our ordnance factories have not improved their output or quality and the procurement process continues to run on the old pattern. The wishlist of weaponry that the army headquarters wanted to acquire which was on the government’s files had not been fulfilled even till January 2017.
The CAG report also says that of the 170 kinds of ammunition in 2013, just 27% was ready for 20 days of intense fighting, while in September 2016, 80% ammunition was below the required levels. The situation has improved only marginally in the months that followed. The government has given the rights for procurement to the vice-chief of the army staff in the event of an emergency. With this, the risk has reduced but it hasn’t entirely vanished.
How battle-ready is India for a war against China or Pakistan?
The report that the country’s Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has submitted to the Parliament about the Indian army has some significantly disturbing findings. Despite all its bravery, our army is battling with a drastic shortfall of necessary ammunition.
Updated: Aug 06, 2017 23:56 IST
There is bad news for those Facebook warriors eager for a war with China and Pakistan. The report that the country’s Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has submitted to Parliament about the Indian army has some significantly disturbing findings. Despite all its bravery, our army is battling with a drastic shortfall of necessary ammunition.
The report is a follow-up to the conclusions of May 2015. Its objective was to evaluate the progress that has been made over the last three years. The CAG report on ammunition management reveals that the situation in September 2016 has not changed very much since March 2013.
The reason? Our ordnance factories have not improved their output or quality and the procurement process continues to run on the old pattern. The wishlist of weaponry that the army headquarters wanted to acquire which was on the government’s files had not been fulfilled even till January 2017.
The CAG report also says that of the 170 kinds of ammunition in 2013, just 27% was ready for 20 days of intense fighting, while in September 2016, 80% ammunition was below the required levels. The situation has improved only marginally in the months that followed. The government has given the rights for procurement to the vice-chief of the army staff in the event of an emergency. With this, the risk has reduced but it hasn’t entirely vanished.
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Hendrik_2000
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Quiet before the storm? I hope it won't come to that but there are unreasonable people out there who cross the line
Over at CDF Wtih said that according to Chinese media China has amassed 50000 combined troop and Forward command headquarter has been set up and troop are on the highest alert. the movement of heavy equipment is real
Now that Korean situation is stabilized and SCS is more or less went China's way
I don't see how China can back up now. This analyst think the same way. Excerpt
China vs. India War: Why Indian Army Is Too Weak To Fight
By on August 7, 2017 3:00 pm in
As it seems China vs. war is about to break out any second, the Indian army is terribly unprepared to fight Chinese.
As China’s top academic reveals plans of a “small-scale military operation to expel Indian troops within two weeks,” published in the state-run daily Global Times over the weekend, a China vs. India war is no longer something only die-hard, military-eager patriots are advocating for. A military conflict between the world’s two most populous nations over a territorial dispute has now changed its status from “unlikely” to “imminent.”
Over at CDF Wtih said that according to Chinese media China has amassed 50000 combined troop and Forward command headquarter has been set up and troop are on the highest alert. the movement of heavy equipment is real
Now that Korean situation is stabilized and SCS is more or less went China's way
I don't see how China can back up now. This analyst think the same way. Excerpt
China vs. India War: Why Indian Army Is Too Weak To Fight
By on August 7, 2017 3:00 pm in
As it seems China vs. war is about to break out any second, the Indian army is terribly unprepared to fight Chinese.
As China’s top academic reveals plans of a “small-scale military operation to expel Indian troops within two weeks,” published in the state-run daily Global Times over the weekend, a China vs. India war is no longer something only die-hard, military-eager patriots are advocating for. A military conflict between the world’s two most populous nations over a territorial dispute has now changed its status from “unlikely” to “imminent.”
The launchers are already there. Only shipping additional ammo.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
India would seriously get their rear end handed to them in any serious military conflict in that region. Strategically, operationally, tactically they are at a severe disadvantage. Even the terrain favors PLA forces.
I say this as a casual but objective observer with really no loyalty or nationalistic attachment to either entity.
I hope both sides tone down on the rhetorics and cooler heads prevail. A military confrontation even a short one will no doubt destabilize the entire region and affect global trade and banking system.
The proverbial ball is in India's court. I hope the Modi gov. plays it well. Militarily speaking they will lose and lose hard but if there's some other end game they hope to achieve I hope they have fully understood it and carefully weighed the risks and repercussions.
I say this as a casual but objective observer with really no loyalty or nationalistic attachment to either entity.
I hope both sides tone down on the rhetorics and cooler heads prevail. A military confrontation even a short one will no doubt destabilize the entire region and affect global trade and banking system.
The proverbial ball is in India's court. I hope the Modi gov. plays it well. Militarily speaking they will lose and lose hard but if there's some other end game they hope to achieve I hope they have fully understood it and carefully weighed the risks and repercussions.
Play the victim and curry favour from Western powers
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Assuming that is their hope or end game, it is an extremely dangerous hedge. It is far from guarantee that that outcome will materialize... especially with Trump in office.
Maybe with Obama I can see a slight possibility but I doubt it will happen under the Trump admin.
Of course I say this as a total layman with zero insider knowledge.. Maybe modi has had backdoor conversations and assurances from western powers were the situation escalate into a shooting war. Who knows!
manqiangrexue
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Wait, how is the Korean situation in any way, stabilized? I still see that area as where China needs to be most ready because US advances in North Korea may take WWIII to reverse whereas Indian "advances" are kinda like when you saw that your 5-year old has taken your car keys. Speaking in Greek Mythology terms, the Korean situation is the Hydra and India is the crab.
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